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[LT1Zob]

Originally Posted by NOT A 45

Wish we welcomed more people like you! Unfortunately the wallflowers the last generation or so have raised will be this country's undoing!

Most I know who came like me, not to game the system and suck the taxpayers’ blood, think exactly like I do. Not enough of us though sadly. I’m a proud American by choice, always will be, even if all they leave us with are the memories of what it once was. It breaks my heart to see what the freedom-spoiled sheep are doing to this amazing country day after day. Oh well, all we can do is hope.
Back to the topic at hand…

[joekono]

Originally Posted by NOT A 45

Wish we welcomed more people like you! Unfortunately the wallflowers the last generation or so have raised will be this country's undoing!

Damn straight!!!

[ElderJ]

Originally Posted by NOT A 45

The cost in raw materials needed to produce an EV is now 125% more than the raw material cost of a comparable internal combustion engine vehicle, according to AlixPartners.

I wouldn't doubt it, but I wonder if the profit margin on EVs far exceed combustion vehicles for manufacturers? I haven't researched it nor care to (no one is paying me for my opinions anyway), but if so, that would explain the rush to abandon gas and go to electric. It's odd because EV is a much simpler machine that requires less maintenance.


In all honesty, I could give a falling fig about my car's design. I just need something reliable to get me around town. If these jokers can actually pull off upgrading the infrastructure to accommodate a few hundred thousand EVs, then so be it.

[ElderJ]

Originally Posted by NOT A 45

Except in California.....correct?

It's a global market. I just got back from Italy and saw a few Fords over there, but it's a European Ford that I don't see in the States. Puma, I think. The world doesn't revolve around Cali, and I'd still be surprised if they actually pull off the no-combustion-engine-sale law.


My biggest concern isn't the battery, but the high cost of cars. How can middle/low class afford to even buy a vehicle in the near future? Are we going to have to keep recycling everyone else's bad EVs? I better break my bicycle back out at this rate.

[ElderJ]

Originally Posted by NOT A 45

Well, when the guy said that the President doesn't set gasoline prices.....my typing fingers were getting fidgety! Only an idiot can't see that his policy, mandates, and executive orders directly effected our energy situation!

That's because you've been deluded by the Republican kool-aid. Gas prices fluctuate regardless of which party is in power. The only real impact to gas prices are wars, economic depressions, and unethical vendors.


You guys can vote however you want, but don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

[Aqua Blue RS/SS]

Originally Posted by ElderJ

It's a global market. I just got back from Italy and saw a few Fords over there, but it's a European Ford that I don't see in the States. Puma, I think. The world doesn't revolve around Cali, and I'd still be surprised if they actually pull off the no-combustion-engine-sale law.


My biggest concern isn't the battery, but the high cost of cars. How can middle/low class afford to even buy a vehicle in the near future? Are we going to have to keep recycling everyone else's bad EVs? I better break my bicycle back out at this rate.

That last point is no joke. It’s insane how pricey new vehicles as a whole are. I recently got a new company truck. A ‘22 crew cab short bed silverado 2500 custom package 2. It cost 55000. That’s for a truck only one trim level above base equipment. Not many in the middle to low class can afford stuff like that. We just got another crew short F150 XL trim eco boost last week. 51000. There again lower trim level trucks thst cost over 50K doesn’t bode well in my eyes. I’m sure most everyone in those situations will finance them 10 years and that’s a whole other nightmare.

[Moto-Mojo]

@Elder J: “In all honesty, I could give a falling fig about my car's design. I just need something reliable to get me around town.” - Then why are you hanging out and posting on a car forum where people are diametrically opposed to your notion of, ‘it’s just a piece of transportation?’ We are passionate about these cars. And that’s putting it mildly.

And your other notion that gas prices fluctuate with all parties, BS, - gas is closer to $7 in CA than $6. That’s a NEVER BEFORE event. And I put the blame squarely on the party in power.

[pyroguy]

Originally Posted by ElderJ

That's because you've been deluded by the Republican kool-aid. Gas prices fluctuate regardless of which party is in power. The only real impact to gas prices are wars, economic depressions, and unethical vendors.


You guys can vote however you want, but don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

Blue or red, if you cancel the finishing of a fully funded pipeline which would allow for billions of barrels of oil into the country or to come from an oil rich portion of our country, eliminate or extreme limiting of extraction leases, and other significant restrictions placed on the oil and gas industry. Simple supply and demand is why gas prices are high. You limit the supply and maintain the demand, the prices go up. You flood the supply and maintain the demand, the prices go down.

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by ElderJ

That's because you've been deluded by the Republican kool-aid. Gas prices fluctuate regardless of which party is in power. The only real impact to gas prices are wars, economic depressions, and unethical vendors.


You guys can vote however you want, but don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

Sure. Canceling pipelines with inexpensive oil and canceling federal land drilling permits have nothing to do with it…

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by pyroguy

Blue or red, if you cancel the finishing of a fully funded pipeline which would allow for billions of barrels of oil into the country or to come from an oil rich portion of our country, eliminate or extreme limiting of extraction leases, and other significant restrictions placed on the oil and gas industry. Simple supply and demand is why gas prices are high. You limit the supply and maintain the demand, the prices go up. You flood the supply and maintain the demand, the prices go down.

[Gen6cyl]

Stop the pipeline, beg Saudi's for oil, do a nuclear deal with Iran. If you can say anything good about this party I cannot understand it.

[SS376]

Originally Posted by ElderJ

That's because you've been deluded by the Republican kool-aid. Gas prices fluctuate regardless of which party is in power. The only real impact to gas prices are wars, economic depressions, and unethical vendors.


You guys can vote however you want, but don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

There is overwhelming and incontrovertible evidence that the democrats caused the vast majority of the mess we are all in. Denying it when it's so obvious is absolutely bizarre. And beyond that, Biden has literally been actively making the problems worse, not better.

It's true that bad things can happen no matter who is in power, but the democrats are throwing fuel on the fire instead of trying to put the fire out. Wake up.

[Aqua Blue RS/SS]

Originally Posted by pyroguy

Blue or red, if you cancel the finishing of a fully funded pipeline which would allow for billions of barrels of oil into the country or to come from an oil rich portion of our country, eliminate or extreme limiting of extraction leases, and other significant restrictions placed on the oil and gas industry. Simple supply and demand is why gas prices are high. You limit the supply and maintain the demand, the prices go up. You flood the supply and maintain the demand, the prices go down.

Exactly!!! Im not going into it any more but this goes right in line with all my posts here.

[Danial]

I very rarely post political stuff but after having been unable to post all week due to computer issues, I feel compelled to chime in now that I can log back in.

I am a lifelong independent. I voted for Bill Clinton the first time and came "this close" to voting for Obama the first time. I have been known to vote Democrat on local and state races many times in the past.

Unfortunately, I have witnessed the Democrat party get co-opted by the far left fanatics over the past 20 years. And during the Obama years and then during Trump's era, it became apparent that liberals were/are the most dangerous thing to happen to this country in my lifetime. We thought the cold war was bad...it pales in comparison to what Americans are doing to their own country today.

I don't understand the weakness that has pervaded the Democrat party. Kennedy is surely rolling over in his grave. Offended by mean tweets? Good grief. Grow up and kill your social media. Learn some critical thinking skills and stop taking your talking points from bumper stickers.

Because of what the Democrat party has demonstrated over the past 20 years, I will never vote for anything or anyone supported by that ticket again. I would vote for a box of cat shit before voting for another Democrat. They brought it on themselves.

That's all I got to say and I will never bring it up again in this forum...grin...