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Old 09-27-2020, 01:05 PM   #43
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We have natural gas in Oklahoma we can't give away. Yet our CNG station is covered in weeds and out of business. People are lazy, slap $22.00 worth the gas in our Chevy Cruze and go about 400 miles. Try making people buy a $40,000 electric car and wait in line to charge it, or come home at 11 o'clock at night in a a driving rainstorm, and try "plugging in" in your apartment complex parking lot.
Another problem? Guy dumps a junk Prius in a parking lot. To get rid of the $150 crush value car, you have to pay $1300 to have the battery pack disposed of.
What's the guy working for minimum wage going to buy? Can he buy a $4,000 charging station to put in his yard to charge his $40,000 car? This country is so out of touch. These people need $17,995 Kia's that run on gas.
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:59 PM   #44
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i wonder what happened to CNG cars, i've read about home fill CNG stations, and how CNG has 25% less CO2 emissions. Given different area of the country get their electrical power from varied sources. A CNG car in Oklahoma is probably producing less CO2 than an EV. If the aim is to reduce CO2 emissions, different areas require different solutions.
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Old 09-27-2020, 06:42 PM   #45
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New car sales will skyrocket in neighboring states in 2035.
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Old 09-27-2020, 06:47 PM   #46
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I'm not too surprised if I'm being honest but, I also think that this is one of the only ways to really curtail the abundant smog in the area. I welcome the change and I imagine that within the 15 year time span, the infrastructure required to pull this off will be well under way. It's not like come 2035 there will be a sudden boom and everyone will be forced to drive electric cars. The growing pains of such a transition will surely be ironed out; either by legislation or by technology.
The LA basin had naturally occurring smog long before people lived there.
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Old 09-27-2020, 06:52 PM   #47
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The whole conversation about destroying the middle class can just be resolved by pointing fingers at the selfish decisions of the Baby Boomer generation and how this impacted housing and education.

But yeah electric cars whee
I agree completely. If the Baby Boomer generation hadn't decided to raise entitled booger eating millenials, we wouldn't be in the shape we are today.
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Old 09-27-2020, 08:03 PM   #48
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Doesn't that mean that Oregon, Nevada and AZ will get a boost in new car sales then?
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Old 09-27-2020, 08:16 PM   #49
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that's fine i want to kick California out of the union. they disregard the constitution, the bill of rights and run the state as a independent country anyway.
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Old 09-29-2020, 10:28 AM   #50
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that's fine i want to kick California out of the union. they disregard the constitution, the bill of rights and run the state as a independent country anyway.
they're the fifth largest economy in the world.
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Old 09-29-2020, 10:32 AM   #51
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Just think what our 5th gen Camaros will be worth on the used market then.
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Old 09-29-2020, 09:39 PM   #52
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they're the fifth largest economy in the world.
good, then they should be fine on their own.
i have been to cali many times. i was not impressed!
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Old 09-30-2020, 11:00 AM   #53
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good, then they should be fine on their own.
i have been to cali many times. i was not impressed!
I've been to socal a few times and was never disappointed. The sun comes out and stays out. OBX on the other hand.
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Old 09-30-2020, 12:22 PM   #54
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I love gas engines but getting rid of them is the right thing to do. I would like to see the date moved up to 2025.
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Old 09-30-2020, 12:47 PM   #55
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I love gas engines but getting rid of them is the right thing to do. I would like to see the date moved up to 2025.


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Old 09-30-2020, 02:18 PM   #56
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I love gas engines but getting rid of them is the right thing to do. I would like to see the date moved up to 2025.
Yeah, thats what California said about their natural gas power plants which they voted to shut down and go green because "its the right thing to do". Now they have rolling blackouts because as it turns out solar farms only produce electricity half the day. Who new right?

Green new deal 1, sweaty subjects, 0.

Maybe California could look into a pot or windmill powered car. Surely taxpayer funded research to the tune of tens of millions isn't out of the question. When i was stationed there i saw what i perceived to be many pot powered cars anyhow.
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