[kramard]

Originally Posted by Maro_89

Yea sure interested to hear about your review if you care to share. Also when you said the Z28 has more theater and character do you mean the car is more entertaining to drive than the ZL1?

Here you go: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=550165

I dded the z/28 for two years. I had no issues with the suspension. I found it very liveable.

Re: theater- the ls7 pops, is louder and has a louder stock exhaust note. The z/28 also feels like a very mechanical car - noises from the diff and tranny; the TR isn't nearly as smooth; it's a bad ass sports car with a very specific personality.

The zle is very refined. Imo M car or German car brand refined. I appreciate the creature comforts and lap time / and front and rear axle performance are the most important to me. I traded the z/28 for the zle but for the right price I could see getting another z/28 down the road.

[BoilerKB]

Originally Posted by HoodCheck

That will be in the eye of the beholder I think. I've driven the Z/28 for about 7 hrs straight (gas stops not withstanding) without ever thinking its uncomfortable, not even once. Absolutely loved every second of the drive (I have 6 kids, so its extremely abnormal for me to get time to actually drive my cars, especially like that).
I would not even attempt that in the ZL1 since the seats bug me and make it uncomfortable (if they could lean back just a few inches more, I'd probably find it more comfortable). I will never get how people find them more comfortable lol.

You must be a bigger guy (and I don’t necessarily mean fat)? I’m 6’3 200 so a bit slender, and I could see where being much bigger could be uncomfortable for some with how the seats hug you.

[HoodCheck]

Originally Posted by BoilerKB

You must be a bigger guy (and I don’t necessarily mean fat)? I’m 6’3 200 so a bit slender, and I could see where being much bigger could be uncomfortable for some with how the seats hug you.

Not at all; 5'10" 170 lbs.

[BoilerKB]

Originally Posted by HoodCheck

Not at all; 5'10" 170 lbs.

Well, different strokes for different folks I guess... I am obv much taller and a little bigger. I have had many issues with cars that just don't fit people my size (Legacy GT, Pontiac Grand Prix with sunroof to name a few), and I don't even consider myself that big. This car has plenty of leg room, goes back far enough while still allowing me to comfortably reach the steering wheel and can go low enough that I have plenty of headroom without feeling like I'm driving from a ditch. I will also say, I don't know if I've seen a review that called the seats uncomfortable. But one man's trash is another's treasure so

[HoodCheck]

Originally Posted by BoilerKB

Well, different strokes for different folks I guess... I am obv much taller and a little bigger. I have had many issues with cars that just don't fit people my size (Legacy GT, Pontiac Grand Prix with sunroof to name a few), and I don't even consider myself that big. This car has plenty of leg room, goes back far enough while still allowing me to comfortably reach the steering wheel and can go low enough that I have plenty of headroom without feeling like I'm driving from a ditch. I will also say, I don't know if I've seen a review that called the seats uncomfortable. But one man's trash is another's treasure so

Leg room is ok, it just doesn't lay back enough for me. I'm trying to find a spare set of seats to remove the pin in them to see if that helps with the comfort part. I don't need to lay flat or anything stupid like that, I just need a few inches more, and honestly I think that may well take care of the comfort problem for me.

[CW3SF]

Didn’t I read somewhere that the 2019s have increased the range of the seat throw and recline? Maybe that’s why yours feels restrictive (earlier model) and some of ours doesn’t.

[HoodCheck]

Originally Posted by CW3SF

Didn’t I read somewhere that the 2019s have increased the range of the seat throw and recline? Maybe that’s why yours feels restrictive (earlier model) and some of ours doesn’t.

I hadn't read that, but if thats the case, that may also address the problem. Maybe I'll go check out a '19 ZLE.

[Coop_63]

Okay I'm not sure what to do. I'm first on the list to get a ZL1 at our dealership but I cant make up my mind between a black ZL1 or black Z/28. If I buy either car it not going to be a daily driver just something for fun.

I always wanted a rare car but in the long run do you thing the ZL1 will hold their value vs the Z/28

[Jetrep]

I believe the ring time for the zle manual was 7:16.04

[Camfab]

Originally Posted by Coop_63

Okay I'm not sure what to do. I'm first on the list to get a ZL1 at our dealership but I cant make up my mind between a black ZL1 or black Z/28. If I buy either car it not going to be a daily driver just something for fun.

I always wanted a rare car but in the long run do you thing the ZL1 will hold their value vs the Z/28

I’d get the one you like the most and enjoy it. You’re never going to guess what the future holds. I loved the Z-28 at the time and it’s a cool N/A car. The 6th Gen is in a class by itself, but that shouldn’t steer you. Get the one that’s speaks to you.

[Bosse'sBoss]

The newer 6th gen Camaro SS1LE with narrower and less costly tires than the Corsa's on the 5th gen Camaro Z28 provides similar performance at the track. So the 6th gen ZL1 is a superior performer compared to the older and heavier 5th gen Z28. The very well developed Alpha chassis is the biggest difference plus is lighter than the older model.

[Vigilante375]

Originally Posted by Bosse'sBoss

The newer 6th gen Camaro SS1LE with narrower and less costly tires than the Corsa's on the 5th gen Camaro Z28 provides similar performance at the track. So the 6th gen ZL1 is a superior performer compared to the older and heavier 5th gen Z28. The very well developed Alpha chassis is the biggest difference plus is lighter than the older model.

Yes the Zeta platform was heavier than the 6th gen but the 5th gen Z28 weight is right between the 6th gen ZL1 and ZL1 1LE weight. It does have a lot of weight reduction to include the AC but it is a true hardcore track car.

[pauly1119]

Originally Posted by SFV1LE

Seems like the question is really 6th Gen ZL1 1LE vs Z28, or 5th Gen ZL1 vs 6th Gen ZL1.

In either case the 6th Gen ZL1 or 1LE are superior in many ways. If you're choosing between Z28 and ZL1 for track (because track IS the reason for the Z28 existence), you should of course get a ZL1 1LE, it is a clearly superior track car vs. Z28.

If this is about street driving and looks, please ignore my comments.

I agree with this

[jjgi5150]

Hi all,

An older thread but I’ll add in. My ‘15 Z/28 (#390) was a nice car for sure. But overall, I would have to go with the two ZLE’s I’ve had.

The Z/28 high points were:

The best brakes ever!!
Great exhaust
The very best rear end ratio of 3.90
The Torsen locker!!!
Good engine power
Best looking factory wheels

The Z/28 low points:

Yuck! 2.66 1st gear TR6060. Should be 2.29 1st TR6060
The cooling system did not handle desert high heat
Terrible stock stereo system



ZLE high points:

Great motor with 150 more HP
Great!!! 2.29 CR TR6060!!! Best trans ever
Great creature comforts
Never overheated
Best looking Camaro ever built, ZL1 or ZLE

ZLE low points:

The oil pump design
Lack of the CC brakes from the Z/28


Plus…the 4 years of minor updates between my ‘18 and ‘22 model years is noticeable. My ‘22 runs so much better than my ‘18 did.

If there was only a way to fit a ‘15 Z/28 3.90 rear end cradle assembly into my ZLE, and still have everything work… I’d be extra happy.

Just my thoughts,

Take care

JJ