Local official refuses to marry an interracial couple

brandotron · 10-20-2009, 11:51 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091016/...rracial_rebuff

Unbelievable in this day and age.

Xanthos · 10-20-2009, 11:58 AM

And his excuse is that "he's thinking of the welfare of the children" that don't exist yet. Personally I think he's just trying to do his bit to keep those children from ever existing.

- X

prostock69 · 10-20-2009, 12:00 PM

Absolutely ridiculous! I saw this story and it made me extremely mad! What happened to our constitutional right to pursue "happiness" in this country????? It's hard enough to find IT and LOVE at the same time. Now they have this jackass standing in their way of living their lives together as man and wife because they are of different races. What this moron doesn't realize is judgmental PEOPLE LIKE HIM are the reason why children of interracial couples allegedly have it rougher. His actions (or inaction) proved his own point!

sugar'n'spice · 10-20-2009, 12:05 PM

ABSOLUTELY APPALLING!

Zabo · 10-20-2009, 12:34 PM

..Say good bye to your job buddy.

2ndgenz28 · 10-20-2009, 01:57 PM

Its his right to say no wether you agree with his position or not.

This is America and he should be free to express his position and moral values, even if you think they are messed up. This is not Russia.

That's what makes this a free country.

Now my sister and her bo were were also told no when they asked to get married.

The priest is making them wait 6 months, he will not marry anyone right away, you must wait 6 months after you ask or he won't do it.

No real difference, his values are that no one should get married right away, and right or wrong, he has the right to say "no I won't do it."

Even when other family members went to put pressure on him through to catholic system, he still refused to do it any sooner. And so the wedding is in Jan 2010, insted of Nov 2009.

1320junkie · 10-20-2009, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Its his right to say no wether you agree with his position or not.

This is America and he should be free to express his position and moral values, even if you think they are messed up. This is not Russia.

That's what makes this a free country.

Now my sister and her bo were were also told no when they asked to get married.

The priest is making them wait 6 months, he will not marry anyone right away, you must wait 6 months after you ask or he won't do it.

No real difference, his values are that no one should get married right away, and right or wrong, he has the right to say "no I won't do it."

Even when other family members went to put pressure on him through to catholic system, he still refused to do it any sooner. And so the wedding is in Jan 2010, insted of Nov 2009.

There is a difference from a priest and a government official:
"A justice of the peace is legally obligated to serve the public, all of the public," Quigley said. "Racial discrimination has been a violation of Louisiana and U.S. law for decades. No public official has the right to pick and choose which laws they are going to follow."

Camaro509 · 10-20-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

There is a difference from a priest and a government official:
"A justice of the peace is legally obligated to serve the public, all of the public," Quigley said. "Racial discrimination has been a violation of Louisiana and U.S. law for decades. No public official has the right to pick and choose which laws they are going to follow."

This ^^^^^

The government official after having made sure they made the minimum requirements of the law, should marry them post haste regardless of his beliefs (which he is of course free to speak of, just not act upon if they run afoul of laws etc).

Would it be any different if an employer refused to hire someone based upon their 'expected work output' based on race?

brandotron · 10-20-2009, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Its his right to say no wether you agree with his position or not.

This is America and he should be free to express his position and moral values, even if you think they are messed up. This is not Russia.

That's what makes this a free country.

It's his right in a free county to either take the job with all of the responsibilities it entails, or walk. As a justice of the peace, it's his right to either perform his duty without prejudice, or take a hike. This is blatant racism and there is no room for it in a modern America.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Now my sister and her bo were were also told no when they asked to get married.

The priest is making them wait 6 months, he will not marry anyone right away, you must wait 6 months after you ask or he won't do it.

No real difference, his values are that no one should get married right away, and right or wrong, he has the right to say "no I won't do it."

Even when other family members went to put pressure on him through to catholic system, he still refused to do it any sooner. And so the wedding is in Jan 2010, insted of Nov 2009.

That example doesn't apply to this situation. Your sister and her fiance could just as easily go to a justice of the peace and be wed tomorrow.

2ndgenz28 · 10-20-2009, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

There is a difference from a priest and a government official:
"A justice of the peace is legally obligated to serve the public, all of the public," Quigley said. "Racial discrimination has been a violation of Louisiana and U.S. law for decades. No public official has the right to pick and choose which laws they are going to follow."

How about them sheriffs that refused judges orders to throw people of out their house during this recent crash??

They used moral judgement over the law and their job duties, should they be fired?

Folks should be allow to defend their values, right or wrong and no job should be able to make you break such values, right or wrong.

The day racist idiots like him are not allow to express their values right or wong, is the day we all lose our right.

Many brave men and women fought and died for his right to be an idiot, embrace it or lose it.

brandotron · 10-20-2009, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

The day racist idiots like him are not allow to express their values right or wong, is the day we all lose our right.

Many brave men and women fought and died for his right to be an idiot, embrace it or lose it.

I wholeheartedly agree, but if he is refusing to perform his duties as a civil servant, he should be removed from said position. Given the situation, it's clear that his opinion is based on archaic racist beliefs. A person like that should not be serving the public trust.

Dr Jkel · 10-20-2009, 02:17 PM

DOes this have anything to do with a Camaro., LOL it is freedom of choice, just go to another minister/preacher/ rabbi or whatever. If I stopped everytime somone told me NO, I'd be homeless and broke, not to mention without a Camaro since they originally told me that Mine was cancelled due to dealer closings. Just remember everyone has a boss, just because he said no someone will marry them I feel quite confident in that

BigRigMike · 10-20-2009, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Jekel

DOes this have anything to do with a Camaro., LOL it is freedom of choice, just go to another minister/preacher/ rabbi or whatever. If I stopped everytime somone told me NO, I'd be homeless and broke, not to mention without a Camaro since they originally told me that Mine was cancelled due to dealer closings. Just remember everyone has a boss, just because he said no someone will marry them I feel quite confident in that

Um it was not a religous person saying no. This would be like walking into the DMV and having them say i will not register your car because it uses too much gas.

Zeus · 10-20-2009, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro509

This ^^^^^

The government official after having made sure they made the minimum requirements of the law, should marry them post haste regardless of his beliefs (which he is of course free to speak of, just not act upon if they run afoul of laws etc).

Would it be any different if an employer refused to hire someone based upon their 'expected work output' based on race?

Like Affirmative Action? lol.

10-20-2009, 11:51 AM	#1
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Dr Jkel Roll Tide Drives: 2010 2SS RJT/BLK 6Spd Man Join Date: May 2009 Location: Talladega, Alabama Posts: 4,378	DOes this have anything to do with a Camaro., LOL it is freedom of choice, just go to another minister/preacher/ rabbi or whatever. If I stopped everytime somone told me NO, I'd be homeless and broke, not to mention without a Camaro since they originally told me that Mine was cancelled due to dealer closings. Just remember everyone has a boss, just because he said no someone will marry them I feel quite confident in that __________________ MUSTANG...Like Bringing a Hot Dog to a Steak Dinner....There is no comparison.

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sugar'n'spice Drives: . Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: . Posts: 18,978	ABSOLUTELY APPALLING!

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10-20-2009, 01:57 PM	#6
2ndgenz28 Thread Killer Drives: All Black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NWO Toledo Area Posts: 4,720	Its his right to say no wether you agree with his position or not. This is America and he should be free to express his position and moral values, even if you think they are messed up. This is not Russia. That's what makes this a free country. Now my sister and her bo were were also told no when they asked to get married. The priest is making them wait 6 months, he will not marry anyone right away, you must wait 6 months after you ask or he won't do it. No real difference, his values are that no one should get married right away, and right or wrong, he has the right to say "no I won't do it." Even when other family members went to put pressure on him through to catholic system, he still refused to do it any sooner. And so the wedding is in Jan 2010, insted of Nov 2009.