GM to shutdown Factories

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by vtirocz

Tom Peters designed the Pontiac Aztek! Yes, the same guy who designed our beloved 6th gen Camaro and C7 Corvette!

https://www.motortrend.com/news/gm-d...pontiac-aztek/

Also, the Prius does have an ICE. It's a hybrid.

Well, he certainly had a vision. Lol And a sense of humor.

[rburke76]

I buy a new Chevrolet every 13 years, 1990 cavalier, 2003 monte carlo, 2017 camaro (bought in 2016) and they all were/ are great...i'm very thankful....feel sorry for the plants that are going to be unallocated. for now...hopefully they can rebound. There was a time that there were four cars in our family at once that were all built at one time or another at the Oshawa ontario plant - chevy, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Buick….etc..

[fastball]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

I don't think you are correct. The hourly employee has no say in how the company is run. That is done by the Bean counters.

The UAW practically dictates GM

[fastball]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

None of that junk in my driveway.

That junk has higher resale value than any of your GM cars, or my Camaro. Fact.

I owned two Hondas before my Camaro. I bought the Camaro strictly for two reasons: to get the small block bug out of my system and the style. But if I was to be reasonable and sensible, there’d never be another GM product in my driveway.

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by vtirocz

Tom Peters designed the Pontiac Aztek! Yes, the same guy who designed our beloved 6th gen Camaro and C7 Corvette!

https://www.motortrend.com/news/gm-d...pontiac-aztek/

Also, the Prius does have an ICE. It's a hybrid.

Damn, maybe he started smoking something nice and that's how we got Gen 6 and C7. It's amazing they came from the same hand.

Oh, that's right, it is a Hybrid, not a plug in hybrid though, like my bada$$ Volt.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by fastball

That junk has higher resale value than any of your GM cars, or my Camaro. Fact.

I owned two Hondas before my Camaro. I bought the Camaro strictly for two reasons: to get the small block bug out of my system and the style. But if I was to be reasonable and sensible, there’d never be another GM product in my driveway.

Wanna bet? I think my Chevelle resale value has held it's own thank you. These days they call them investments.

[Realist]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Has anyone mentioned that GM would be hiring Illegals and the Chinese if Unions didn't exist and firing Americans. Oh Wait!!

Making in China and sell here probably but no on Illegals. I myself would prefer my vehicles assembled by Americans, in America by a non-union workforce. Rather not have my hard earned $’s supporting unions. Long ago I had to return to a job site after hours to finish some IT work because the Electricians wouldnt work side by side with me, yet I would willingly work side by side with them. That said, I have a GMC 2500hd and hope to have a ZL1 sometime in the near future.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Wanna bet? I think my Chevelle resale value has held it's own thank you. These days they call them investments.

Not that. Of course that’s different.

You know exactly what I’m talking about. Good Lord.

[396ssrat]

Hate seeing American car companies close their doors.

[redcoats1976]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

How's your 53 year old Honda running? My Chevelle runs very well.

being built in 1993 it runs just like it did in 2000 when my daughter brought it home.just like new.so your 53 year old engine has never had the heads off,new cam,etc.?having owned a big block pontiac (66 tempest hot rod)for 25 years,i cant believe its totally stock and never been apart.that said,my camaro has been pretty reliable,and i would be ok driving it for the next 25 years.

[Mighty Mouce]

Originally Posted by samurai

Ford already said Mustang will stay besides their new SUV lineup. Current rumors say they will build 4-doors Mustangs too, so they bascially scrap Taurus, Fusions, etc. for more Mustang variants. If they built them all in Flatrock the plant should be fine



At least for the Camaro there are so many things that easily can be fixed to push sales.



Just take a quick look at the YouTube page of Chevrolet. The last time they released a video for the Camaro was 2,5 years ago. To this date they have not released any marketing video for the 2019 Camaro. Chevy has the best sportscar for the price on the whole market but has absolutely no interest in showing or telling people that, creating exitement for the car.



Now take a look what video Dodge release for their muscle lineup in the last 2 months (TWO MONTHS!), these are video that actually want you drive these vehicles and pump up your adrenaline.






Also when you make a refresh, don't use a design that people already hated 2 years ago

Yep...nice commercial, If I didnt have my SS, this would definatly have me looking at a Challenger. Like I said GM upper management are run by dumbasses. Not the rank and file builders but from Barra on down.

[Mighty Mouce]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

I've had ~10 cars, my Volt and Camaro are my first "domestic". all the others were pretty fantastic and never once went in for anything but regular maintenance, except the 2000 Volkswagen, it had bad paint which was fixed.

I think GM has the best quality in Domestic, but still lags just a tad behind some other imports, but much better than in the 70's 80's and into the 90's.

Growing up my family had domestics and they all had major issues, until my Dad bought a 1988 Toyota 4X4, that thing was solid and so for most of my life, just based on my own anecdotal experiences, I stayed far away and never even considered a domestic, just didn't want to deal with the problems. But, i'm happy with my two Chevy's now and want to get a Silverado or Sierra.

My family has had all American cars then my mother got on the band wagon and bought an 86 Toyota Camry...it was a POS. Nothing but problems. Damn thing would shut down and leave her stranded. It was in and out of every Toyota shop on our area. Still never got fixed right so she dumped it and got a Saturn. She still has it with no problems.

[Deputy Dog]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

Prius is trash because in your opinion...? they don't have an ICE, they fall apart, they what?

and who in their right mind designed that Aztek, holy crap that thing is ugly as sin.

And the Prius is a raving beauty???

[Deputy Dog]

Originally Posted by samurai

Ford already said Mustang will stay besides their new SUV lineup. Current rumors say they will build 4-doors Mustangs too, so they bascially scrap Taurus, Fusions, etc. for more Mustang variants. If they built them all in Flatrock the plant should be fine



At least for the Camaro there are so many things that easily can be fixed to push sales.



Just take a quick look at the YouTube page of Chevrolet. The last time they released a video for the Camaro was 2,5 years ago. To this date they have not released any marketing video for the 2019 Camaro. Chevy has the best sportscar for the price on the whole market but has absolutely no interest in showing or telling people that, creating exitement for the car.



Now take a look what video Dodge release for their muscle lineup in the last 2 months (TWO MONTHS!), these are video that actually want you drive these vehicles and pump up your adrenaline.






Also when you make a refresh, don't use a design that people already hated 2 years ago

Mary Barra currently in secret talks with Dodge on contracting out these ads and photo shopping in Camaros in place of the Chargers and Challengers.