Mustang hits wall after car show

[TRZ06]

Manufactures need to start to put in a "Cars & Coffee" mode within the stability/traction control systems.

[50MileSmile]

As hard as the manufacturers try to make the nannies foolproof, all they’re doing is finding out how ingenious fools like this guy can be in exceeding the limits of physics (especially on a dirty, dusty, greasy, sandy local street). That’s why I have no sympathy for drivers who complain about the nannies “interfering” in a track situation - they’re asking the car to do something it wasn’t designed to do and literally can’t do. Buy a car where all the nannies are defeatable, and then hit the track - and quit blaming the manufacturers for producing vehicles that are designed to save the butts of the majority of very average drivers who represent probably 95% of their buyers.

[Lerch98]

Drunk is my guess. Or High.

[Emoto]

Maybe you guys who have driven high performance cars more than I can answer a question for me. I keep seeing these vids where someone who does not have the car pointing straight hammers the gas and loses the back end. (That's what we're seeing, right?) the back end starts to swing around. Now, I compare this to my experience driving on a snow covered road. To reel it in, I steer into the direction of the skid until the wheels hook up again. Then I continue along on my merry way. Is there something else happening in these videos that I am missing? It looks like these guys don't steer into it far or hard enough. What am I missing? Sincere question. Thanks!

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Emoto

Maybe you guys who have driven high performance cars more than I can answer a question for me. I keep seeing these vids where someone who does not have the car pointing straight hammers the gas and loses the back end. (That's what we're seeing, right?) the back end starts to swing around. Now, I compare this to my experience driving on a snow covered road. To reel it in, I steer into the direction of the skid until the wheels hook up again. Then I continue along on my merry way. Is there something else happening in these videos that I am missing? It looks like these guys don't steer into it far or hard enough. What am I missing? Sincere question. Thanks!

I actually think its more a case of people getting these cars that never learned the art of car control. Learning in the snow is a great way to start to learn the art. One thing that shows me that they never learned is the fact the many of them get on it incorrectly to begin with and set themselves up for failure from the start.

[50MileSmile]

Originally Posted by Emoto

Maybe you guys who have driven high performance cars more than I can answer a question for me. I keep seeing these vids where someone who does not have the car pointing straight hammers the gas and loses the back end. (That's what we're seeing, right?) the back end starts to swing around. Now, I compare this to my experience driving on a snow covered road. To reel it in, I steer into the direction of the skid until the wheels hook up again. Then I continue along on my merry way. Is there something else happening in these videos that I am missing? It looks like these guys don't steer into it far or hard enough. What am I missing? Sincere question. Thanks!

You’re essentially right. Just as you’re doing in the snow, these guys are overpowering the rear tires with too much throttle for the available traction. The difference is you’re only using a little bit of power to spin the tires at a low speed on snow and ice, while most of these clowns are just nailing the gas pedal like it’s an on-off switch and unleashing hundreds of horsepower on a dirty street. This usually happens with the front wheels turned, since they’re leaving a parking lot; when the rear tires catch traction, the car goes in the direction the front wheels are turned, and by the time the clown driving the car figures out what’s going on, he’s already crashed.