GM Reveals 2019 Chevrolet Silverado

[shaffe]

That combo of engines is interesting. The models you can get them in is very odd though. I understand the "base" engines only in the low trims, but why is the 6.2 only available in 2 trims? Pretty sure Ford you can get the 3.5 Ecoboost in all trims except maybe the work truck.

[FenwickHockey65]

Because it's GM.


I don't understand why the 3.0L Duramax isn't available on either Trail Boss either.

[Royal Tiger]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Because it's GM.


I don't understand why the 3.0L Duramax isn't available on either Trail Boss either.

They certainly like to be difficult.

You see Ford’s new F-150 pursuit model Fen? Pretty intriguing. Wasn’t FHP one of the test departments?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Wow...some interesting news to start off our Friday morning!

I'm not sure on whether to be excited or confused about the new big turbo 4.

Several questions running through my head...such as:

1) Why offer the 4.3 V6 AND the new 2.7 turbo? Yeah, I get it that there are diehards that will never want to choose a turbo 4 over a V6, but that seems like such a small reason to keep the V6 around (this coming from someone that doesn't want to see the V6 die). The 2.7 is apparently cheaper (being the base engine), more fuel efficient, and offers more power than the 4.3. Sooo....is it just not good for work? Is the 4.3 much more durable? I'd hope that is not the case.

2) Why is the six speed automatic still around? Wouldn't it reduce costs/complexity by just putting the 8 speed in the high value models?

3) Why does the first bullet point which mentions the 5.3 not say "updated", whereas the others do? Don't tell me they are going to offer two versions of the 5.3 also.

4) Looks like no bump in power IIRC...small bummer there but no big deal either.



Side note: Anyone think they might dump the V6 in the mid-size twins for the new 2.7? I think there's a chance. I'd be sad to see the V6 go, but again, unless its just not a good engine for towing at all, I don't see any reason as to why it wouldn't be a better engine. Of course I'd be MUCH more excited to see a small displacement Turbo V6 making say 330HP and 375TQ!

I bet the V6 is cheaper than the turbo4.

The Silverado probably sells in high enough volume that the per-unit cost of added complexity is pretty small. Presumably smaller than the cost difference between the 6 and 8 speed autos

I doubt they'll put the 2.7 into the Colorado/Canyon this generation. Yes, its torquier but that seems like the only advantage it holds. Thats not nothing, but its not everything either. Its probably more expensive too, and there are already too many people balking at the price of the V6 midsizers. And I know GM doesn't really care much about this (their concern is CAFE scores), but I'd expect better real world fuel economy out of the V6 than the big turbo4.

On the other hand, I imagine its still part of the same 4 cylinder family as the current base engine (and not, say a member of a 'big block 4' group of engines) which would make it a great deal simpler to include in the lineup, unlike putting the 5.3L V8 in there.



You are modest in your dreams for a turbo V6; 330/375 out of a small (sub 3L?) engine is certainly doable. I'd put more money on a high performance 'big' turbo6, but I'm thinking that the house would be winning that bet with no T6 happening at all.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Because it's GM.


I don't understand why the 3.0L Duramax isn't available on either Trail Boss either.

LOL

It just doesn't make any sense to me.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by JerTM

This should be fun, now I get to learn about 3 new engines at the same time. ugggh, I wished GM would at least train us on the new designs before we hear about them from some website.

They want to keep leaks to a minimum. They can deal with their own employees fairly easily. But keeping techs at dealerships from blabbing is probably an awful lot harder.

Originally Posted by shaffe

That combo of engines is interesting. The models you can get them in is very odd though. I understand the "base" engines only in the low trims, but why is the 6.2 only available in 2 trims? Pretty sure Ford you can get the 3.5 Ecoboost in all trims except maybe the work truck.

Odds are, they assume that everyone who wants one will just buy the higher trim package to get it & that by making it more 'accessible', they'd lose money by people being cheap. I don't agree with that line of thinking, but that wouldn't stop the bean counters from decreeing it to be true.

[ChefBorOzzy]

I'd love to swap my 5.0 F150 for the new 5.3 Silverado.

[snizzle]

Can't get the NHT Max Trailering Pkg on the Trail Boss either. No power tailgate.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

They certainly like to be difficult.

You see Ford’s new F-150 pursuit model Fen? Pretty intriguing. Wasn’t FHP one of the test departments?

I haven't seen any, but they have F-150s primarily with our CVE units.



I have seen two Chargers catch on fire in the last month though.

[huggercamaro21]

GM is so dumb. Yikes.

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by huggercamaro21

GM is so dumb. Yikes.

They really are trying hard to screw this thing up. Which is unfortunate, given how critical this is. Would anyone be surprised if they end up in 3rd place?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by snizzle

They really are trying hard to screw this thing up. Which is unfortunate, given how critical this is. Would anyone be surprised if they end up in 3rd place?

Chevy in 3rd? Slightly surprised.
GM in 3rd? Extremely surprised.

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Chevy in 3rd? Slightly surprised.
GM in 3rd? Extremely surprised.

Are you including the Silverado, Sierra, Colorado, and Canyon?

[Royal Tiger]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I haven't seen any, but they have F-150s primarily with our CVE units.



I have seen two Chargers catch on fire in the last month though.

That doesn’t surprise me. In the General forum, one of the guys was telling how his friends brand new Charger or Challenger burned to the ground in his driveway.