GT500 700+ hp

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

You can bet that by the time the 500 comes out the ZL1 will have a horsepower bump. That is called marketing. You saturate the market with a level of competence, and offer bigger badder and saturate again. "Wash rinse repeat"

The GT500 is for model year 2019, which means by the fall they can be ordered. Not sure if Camaro can respond that fast, but all they need to do is put the LT5 in there and match it with the fantastic 10 speed and its lights out for the GT500.

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by 2011shelby

If the new GT500 comes out as an 2019 model wouldn’t it actually have a 3rd quarter 2018 release?
Unless the first run is a short one.

The Ford video clearly said coming in 2019! Not that it was a MY 2019. If it was a MY 2019, they would of said, look at the 2019 GT500.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP

This is going to be a repeat of last gen pony cars, mark my words. And Chevy will not drop the LT5 into a Camaro. Nor will they up the power to compete with their competition. They don't do that, never have, never will. They put out a product and sit on it for the few model years they need and then move on to a new gen. Besides, Re-R&Ding a setup on the same chassis/body/tech doesn't make much sense anyway. And pulleying the LT4 is out of the question from the factory; they could never have that under a warranty without over heating problems and other stuff that wasn't engineered into it to meet the 100,000+ mile expectation people have of the Big 3's performance cars.

I fully expect that the ZL1 will be the slowest in a straight line in this gen, just like it was last gen. It already doesn't beat/hardly ties, the last gen competitors (662 HP GT500 and Hellcat, both will hang right with it or narrowly beat it transmission to transmission). Typical Chevy.

Camaro needs to step up, ist the 2018 redone GT that runs easy 12.0 with the 10 speed auto, than the 475 hp bullitt, and now the GT500 700 plus hp. All of a sudden Camaro is the underdog.

[Gunkk]

At 700hp furd will either need to put the 500 on a serious diet or the car will weigh >4500 lbs with all the upgraded driveline and cooling they’ll have to install.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Gunkk

At 700hp furd will either need to put the 500 on a serious diet or the car will weigh >4500 lbs with all the upgraded driveline and cooling they’ll have to install.

Not sure it will be that heavy, add 500 to a Gt350 3800lbs would be 4300, but add it to a 3600 lb GT350R and its 4100lbs

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by Badgerbimmer

The gen 6 camaro goes around a corner much better. Doesn't take a whole lot of engineering to go in a straight line fast. Can't get my head around the folks that think a car that goes in a straight line fast is a car worth owning......

This post is about as ignorant as any post I've read anywhere.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

A10 ZL1 to A8 HC stock for stock down to the tire and the ZL1 will win in the quarter mile.

Watched a ZL1 last week at the track. I talked to the owner who told me it runs 7.20 in the 1/6th. I was interested to see this but he ran wasw running 7.45 at 96mph. More than just once.

[ChefBorOzzy]

This car is a year and a half away at least from hitting dealer lots..So, 3 years after ZL1? The car should be better.. They've known which engine would go into the ZL1 since 2014 when it was announced for Z06.. Lol

[ChefBorOzzy]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Watched a ZL1 last week at the track. I talked to the owner who told me it runs 7.20 in the 1/6th. I was interested to see this but he ran wasw running 7.45 at 96mph. More than just once.

A guy I know traps around 102 I believe with his 10 speed ZL1 in the 1/8.

[waterman]

For what most will be paying for the 2019 GT500 in it's first and second model year. I honestly believe that (if it were financially feasible for me) I could purchase a new ZR1 and maybe have enough $ left over for a second set of wheels and tires.

Before you L your AO, consider the Ford ADM's on the GT350 and GT350R in their first 2 years of production. $15-35K on the 350 and $40-75K on the R were unfortunately "the norm". Especially in areas where motivated potential buyers commonly had unlimited cash resources. Yes, there were those who paid that ADM without hesitation. A working class dog like me can't compete with that. Background; I actually queried 18 Ford dealerships from Honolulu, HI. to Richmond, VA. and points north and south. Offering "a modest $10-15K" over MSRP for a non R GT350 with track pack. Most were pleasant and professional, but all declined.

Maybe it's the production number plate thing... No, that doesn't hold water either, there were 3000 GT350's built and 3048 ZL1's built in 2017. Based on "limited" production numbers, that's a lot of $ for a number plate and a significantly lower level of performance. Not a hater, just saying.

I am more than happy to pay MSRP for my new Z at a dealership just a few miles from my island home.

No, thank you on the GT500.

[Bench racers]

Originally Posted by Badgerbimmer

The gen 6 camaro goes around a corner much better. Doesn't take a whole lot of engineering to go in a straight line fast. Can't get my head around the folks that think a car that goes in a straight line fast is a car worth owning......

Everyone says that when the other guy beats you to the stripe first. These lap times are nice and all but 99.5 percent of these things will be on the street with everyday cars. All the gt500 has to do is perform at least closely to the zl1 at the ring and have a decent ride quality for the street, it doesn't has to surpass it. But if it stomps it at the dragstrip like the last version did to the Camaro at that time then it will be a hit. Bragging about ring times when you live in upstate New York doesn't mean a hill of beans to the guy sitting at the stoplight to you in traffic.

[1roadking]

How hard is it to grab another 100HP out of our cars and kick it’s ass??? Lol, when the LT5 hits the Camaro in 2 years it will be unstoppable. 50HP is less then 8% more and that’s not lot if it weighs the same or more as our cars. These cars are all crazy fast now. More power is fun, but not even close to needed and it’s still a drivers race at these differences. Exciting times though��

[cann1x]

4 pages of the ZL1 in comparison to the gt500, when it wasn't made to compete with the gt500, hellcat, demon, whatever. the Z06 and the ZR1 are our bread winners in that regard. enjoy being the fastest around a track, that's what our cars are made for...

[96MrBass]

Originally Posted by Bench racers

Everyone says that when the other guy beats you to the stripe first. These lap times are nice and all but 99.5 percent of these things will be on the street with everyday cars. All the gt500 has to do is perform at least closely to the zl1 at the ring and have a decent ride quality for the street, it doesn't has to surpass it. But if it stomps it at the dragstrip like the last version did to the Camaro at that time then it will be a hit. Bragging about ring times when you live in upstate New York doesn't mean a hill of beans to the guy sitting at the stoplight to you in traffic.

Isn't that stock straight line performance thrown out the window as soon as you hit the street also? There's modded cars everywhere on the street so the stock for stock thing really doesn't matter other than bragging rights.