Future Pontiac Solstice Variations

stovt001 · 10-27-2007, 04:30 PM

As I'm sure many of you know, there are rumors that the Solstice will be introduced in coupe and/or targa body styles by around 2009/10, along with a minor refresh. In fact Bob Lutz himself commented favorably on the possibility of a Solstice coupe. Now the hot rumor is that a targa variant will be offered, but sadly may be limited to 10,000 units per year. So lets hear your thoughts on it. Do these plans sound good? What do you speculate may be the price, the real production numbers, things to be changed in the refresh, availability of GXP levels on the new body styles. Talk amongst yourselves. Personally, if they offered a GXP Targa starting under the price of a GXP convertible, it would compete heavily against the Camaro in my book. As much as I want that V8 power and the convenience of a back seat, a cheaper, slick-looking, nimble two seat coupe would be pretty tempting.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-27-2007, 04:37 PM

no...the Solstice is a Roadster...make it coupe, if they so choose...but it's nowhere near Camaro, imo...Nor is it near the Vette, I think.

The folks looking for a functional sporty, every-day car...are not gonna go for a 2-seater solstice. The people looking for a V8 muscle car, are not going to go for a Solctice...

But it should be a quick, nice car, IMO...

I've always liked the solstice, just could never see myself in one.

stovt001 · 10-27-2007, 06:35 PM

See, not having a family, and liking cars as small as possible, the solstice has a little more appeal for me. The lack on trunk space makes the convertible a no-go for me, because I like to road trip and I need the room for a decent sized duffel. Since my funds are rather limited, something cheaper than the Camaro, that still has a somewhat usable trunk, and is still sporty/track ready, plus a little more fuel efficient deserves a serious look. The Camaro is still my number one choice, but really what I want is a car I can commute in on weekdays and either race or roadtrip in on the weekends

*TAG UR IT* · 10-28-2007, 03:56 AM

Saturn Sky Red Line....all I have to say. Now, put a targa top on it. Oh my...

We saw the Red Line in Dallas. Holy heck, Batman. That was sweet. Sorry, love the Solstice, but I really love that Red Line.

stevenm357 · 10-28-2007, 10:47 PM

don't know about the saturn. but my brief case won't even fit comfortably in a solstice. Pretty car though!

*TAG UR IT* · 10-29-2007, 04:01 AM

Oh, I'd take a Solstice. I love both of the versions. Now...would I fit. I sat in both, but both had the battery cables disconnected at the auto shows and the seats were pulled up. Didn't have enough leg room. If there was enough room, I'd take one.

stovt001 · 10-29-2007, 05:38 AM

I'm small, and my fiancee is tall but at the auto show she fit and she loved it. However, the complete lack of storage room means it could never really be more than a second car for the weekends, so that means the roadster is out. That is why the coupe/targa is so attractive, as it would have a much bigger trunk I'm sure. It would be a good car for just the two of us, affordable, fuel efficient, and track ready, but I still want that V8 so the Camaro is winning for now. Of course, they do have V8 conversions for the Solstice/Sky...

*TAG UR IT* · 10-29-2007, 12:43 PM

V8 conversion would be sweeeeet for the solstice/sky. At the Dallas auto show, people were asking left and right to pop the trunk on the Red Line. We couldn't pop it, but they were getting serious about buying it (or so it seemed) and really wanted to check it out.

EllwynX · 10-29-2007, 05:34 PM

The Sky is an immensely more attractive vehicle with it's sharp lines.

The Solstice with it's soft curves is much more sedate and 'feminine'.

I've sat in both. Quite tight. I'm 6' and the seat had to be most of the way back. I would have preferred ALL the way back, but in order to even see out the front windshield I had to bring it forward a little so I could recline the seat some (seat up and back my eyes were right in line with the windshield surround).

Jeff · 10-29-2007, 06:04 PM

Tbh Pontiac should forget that and remake the firebirds lol =[

stovt001 · 10-29-2007, 06:37 PM

I think there is room for both. Pontiac needs both a small roadster plus a midsize RWD car, whether it be a coupe (therefore Firebird replacement) or sedan (therefore more along the lines of a GTO). That way they'll have compact, midsize, and fullsize covered.

I agree that the Sky is the far more attractive car, but for now it sounds like it will only be offered as a roadster and I don't want to have to put up with Saturn's crappy "You must pay MSRP" pricing policy. What rubbish.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-29-2007, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stovt001

I agree that the Sky is the far more attractive car, but for now it sounds like it will only be offered as a roadster and I don't want to have to put up with Saturn's crappy "You must pay MSRP" pricing policy. What rubbish.

In their defense, they are generally cheap as it is. And lots of people absolutely hate haggling, which is foolish. I just love it

So Saturn offers an easy way to get in, pick a car, and get out. More like a car supermarket, than anything.

stovt001 · 10-30-2007, 07:38 AM

Actually Saturns tend to have higher MSRPs even before you haggle down the competitors. So even if you just bought a Solstice configured just like a Sky at MSRP, you'd still pay less. For example, the Sky Red Line and Solstice GXP are exactly the same except for styling and that the Sky includes AC as standard, where it is a couple hundred dollar option on the Solstice, yet the Sky Red Line starts $2,000 more than the GXP.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-30-2007, 08:42 AM

hmmm....

10-27-2007, 04:30 PM	#1
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	Future Pontiac Solstice Variations As I'm sure many of you know, there are rumors that the Solstice will be introduced in coupe and/or targa body styles by around 2009/10, along with a minor refresh. In fact Bob Lutz himself commented favorably on the possibility of a Solstice coupe. Now the hot rumor is that a targa variant will be offered, but sadly may be limited to 10,000 units per year. So lets hear your thoughts on it. Do these plans sound good? What do you speculate may be the price, the real production numbers, things to be changed in the refresh, availability of GXP levels on the new body styles. Talk amongst yourselves. Personally, if they offered a GXP Targa starting under the price of a GXP convertible, it would compete heavily against the Camaro in my book. As much as I want that V8 power and the convenience of a back seat, a cheaper, slick-looking, nimble two seat coupe would be pretty tempting.

10-27-2007, 04:37 PM	#2
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	no...the Solstice is a Roadster...make it coupe, if they so choose...but it's nowhere near Camaro, imo...Nor is it near the Vette, I think. The folks looking for a functional sporty, every-day car...are not gonna go for a 2-seater solstice. The people looking for a V8 muscle car, are not going to go for a Solctice... But it should be a quick, nice car, IMO... I've always liked the solstice, just could never see myself in one. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-28-2007, 03:56 AM	#4
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,544 View My Garage	Saturn Sky Red Line....all I have to say. Now, put a targa top on it. Oh my... We saw the Red Line in Dallas. Holy heck, Batman. That was sweet. Sorry, love the Solstice, but I really love that Red Line. Attached Images

10-28-2007, 10:47 PM	#5
stevenm357 Drives: 98 Trans am 00 Trans am 01 corvette Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 381	don't know about the saturn. but my brief case won't even fit comfortably in a solstice. Pretty car though! __________________ 2001 Corvette Heads,Big cam, 4:11, Custom Exhaust, MGW Shifter Baer Eradispeed +2 2 pieces rotors, Hotchkiss swaybars. and a few other little things. 1998 Trans Am A4 ( was STS turbo until the turbo and oil pump died) 2000 WS6 Trans AM under the knife ( sadly turned into long term project.

10-29-2007, 06:04 PM	#10
Jeff ~ANTI-FORD~ Drives: Cadillac CTS Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 608	Tbh Pontiac should forget that and remake the firebirds lol =[ __________________ My Z28 sorry guys.. sold Camaro and got a Cadillac CTS, waiting for a few years to get a 2010 SS used ;]

10-27-2007, 06:35 PM	#3
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	See, not having a family, and liking cars as small as possible, the solstice has a little more appeal for me. The lack on trunk space makes the convertible a no-go for me, because I like to road trip and I need the room for a decent sized duffel. Since my funds are rather limited, something cheaper than the Camaro, that still has a somewhat usable trunk, and is still sporty/track ready, plus a little more fuel efficient deserves a serious look. The Camaro is still my number one choice, but really what I want is a car I can commute in on weekdays and either race or roadtrip in on the weekends

10-29-2007, 04:01 AM	#6
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,544 View My Garage	Oh, I'd take a Solstice. I love both of the versions. Now...would I fit. I sat in both, but both had the battery cables disconnected at the auto shows and the seats were pulled up. Didn't have enough leg room. If there was enough room, I'd take one.

10-29-2007, 05:38 AM	#7
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	I'm small, and my fiancee is tall but at the auto show she fit and she loved it. However, the complete lack of storage room means it could never really be more than a second car for the weekends, so that means the roadster is out. That is why the coupe/targa is so attractive, as it would have a much bigger trunk I'm sure. It would be a good car for just the two of us, affordable, fuel efficient, and track ready, but I still want that V8 so the Camaro is winning for now. Of course, they do have V8 conversions for the Solstice/Sky...

10-29-2007, 12:43 PM	#8
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,544 View My Garage	V8 conversion would be sweeeeet for the solstice/sky. At the Dallas auto show, people were asking left and right to pop the trunk on the Red Line. We couldn't pop it, but they were getting serious about buying it (or so it seemed) and really wanted to check it out.

10-29-2007, 05:34 PM	#9
EllwynX Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 2,259	The Sky is an immensely more attractive vehicle with it's sharp lines. The Solstice with it's soft curves is much more sedate and 'feminine'. I've sat in both. Quite tight. I'm 6' and the seat had to be most of the way back. I would have preferred ALL the way back, but in order to even see out the front windshield I had to bring it forward a little so I could recline the seat some (seat up and back my eyes were right in line with the windshield surround).

10-29-2007, 06:37 PM	#11
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	I think there is room for both. Pontiac needs both a small roadster plus a midsize RWD car, whether it be a coupe (therefore Firebird replacement) or sedan (therefore more along the lines of a GTO). That way they'll have compact, midsize, and fullsize covered. I agree that the Sky is the far more attractive car, but for now it sounds like it will only be offered as a roadster and I don't want to have to put up with Saturn's crappy "You must pay MSRP" pricing policy. What rubbish.

10-30-2007, 07:38 AM	#13
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	Actually Saturns tend to have higher MSRPs even before you haggle down the competitors. So even if you just bought a Solstice configured just like a Sky at MSRP, you'd still pay less. For example, the Sky Red Line and Solstice GXP are exactly the same except for styling and that the Sky includes AC as standard, where it is a couple hundred dollar option on the Solstice, yet the Sky Red Line starts $2,000 more than the GXP.

10-30-2007, 08:42 AM	#14
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	hmmm.... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Future Products—General Motors	KILLER74Z28	General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion	5	11-14-2012 05:07 PM
Dealer wrote back that he wants $1000 down & $2500 over sticker	elvism	Camaro Price \| Ordering \| Tracking \| Dealers Discussions	32	12-17-2009 09:28 AM
2008 Pontiac G8 review in Car and Driver	Fbodybuddy	General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion	9	10-26-2007 12:13 PM
Edmunds.com review of Holden Commodore... good info.	LSxcellent	General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion	6	07-23-2007 07:49 PM
Chickens or Goats	KILLER74Z28	General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion	6	06-15-2007 04:25 PM