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kevin2323 · 10-08-2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

wow so wtf is the hold up?

I think it is an ongoing problem...

called chrysler

headpunter · 10-08-2008, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kevin2323

I think it is an ongoing problem...

called chrysler

you mean to say they lost thier german efficiency? from thier slave drivers at daimler?

kevin2323 · 10-08-2008, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

you mean to say they lost thier german efficiency? from thier slave drivers at daimler?

haha .......I think so

AirGoya · 10-08-2008, 03:33 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember hearing that automakers try to stay under the 380 hp range (or somewhere around there) if they can because of some tax that they or consumers would have to pay. For example I think this is why the G8 is "de-tuned" to 361 hp even though its 6.0 liters (or it could be because of the cylinder deactiviation on the G8. We now know why the L99 has lower hp #'s). I could be and I probably am way off.

*radz28* · 10-08-2008, 10:33 AM

I'm sorry guys, but please stay on topic

Please

17% loss?... I think that's a little optimistic (although, I have no proof). Those are more along the lines of a manual car, IMO. FWIW, changing correction factors can alter output numbers too - I'm not suggesting that was done, but every dyno' is different and some more stingy than others. Track numbers are what is important

*DGthe3* · 10-08-2008, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headpunter

you mean to say they lost thier german efficiency? from thier slave drivers at daimler?

ha ha, German efficiency. German engineering.

MajorTom · 10-08-2008, 08:31 PM

I believe those numbers. They're pretty good.

Weather and test factors can affect measured output at the wheels. It usually falls between 10 and 20 percent.

The GTO actually measures lower than Corvettes with the same drivetrain. That should give you an idea of the power of what the Camaro will be like. Not much lower. 10 or so horses. That's just from what I've seen so it could be different or it might be the same.

Also, after seeing options and the like. I have a hunch that the 1SS model will be priced in the low 30s. The 2SS will add a few grand more.

kevin2323 · 10-08-2008, 09:53 PM

that isnt he only dyno that gave those #s fyi. there have been 2.

littlecammi · 10-10-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MajorTom

It could be different or it might be the same.

Glad you cleared that up for us.

camaro5 · 10-11-2008, 01:26 AM

2009 intros the re-worked 5.7 Hemi. Hence the increased power. And you can get a six-speed manual now, too.

10-08-2008, 03:33 AM	#32
AirGoya Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago/Carbondale Posts: 815	Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember hearing that automakers try to stay under the 380 hp range (or somewhere around there) if they can because of some tax that they or consumers would have to pay. For example I think this is why the G8 is "de-tuned" to 361 hp even though its 6.0 liters (or it could be because of the cylinder deactiviation on the G8. We now know why the L99 has lower hp #'s). I could be and I probably am way off. __________________ -Tim

10-08-2008, 10:33 AM	#33
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,788 View My Garage	I'm sorry guys, but please stay on topic Please 17% loss?... I think that's a little optimistic (although, I have no proof). Those are more along the lines of a manual car, IMO. FWIW, changing correction factors can alter output numbers too - I'm not suggesting that was done, but every dyno' is different and some more stingy than others. Track numbers are what is important __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

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10-08-2008, 08:31 PM	#35
MajorTom Drives: 2005 Pontiac GTO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Saint Louis, MO Posts: 306	I believe those numbers. They're pretty good. Weather and test factors can affect measured output at the wheels. It usually falls between 10 and 20 percent. The GTO actually measures lower than Corvettes with the same drivetrain. That should give you an idea of the power of what the Camaro will be like. Not much lower. 10 or so horses. That's just from what I've seen so it could be different or it might be the same. Also, after seeing options and the like. I have a hunch that the 1SS model will be priced in the low 30s. The 2SS will add a few grand more.

10-08-2008, 09:53 PM	#36
kevin2323 Drives: challenger Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: miami Posts: 2,338	that isnt he only dyno that gave those #s fyi. there have been 2.