Cop post speeding ticket on FaceBook

[trashmanssd]

I am just against speed limits that are set by local officials not buy any real logic or by traffic studies. When speed limits are set by one local official driving down the road and giving his singular assessment then it goes to a council that goes based only on that information it may be a law but it does not mean it is correct.

If 10 percent are driving 5-10 MPH under the speed limit 40 Percent are driving 5 mph over to 5 mph under the speed limit (of which what percent are doing that not because that's what they believe to be save but are just following the law) and 50 percent are driving 5-10 mph over the speed limit could that speed limit be right, are there that many crazy death defying maniacs out there or is it just set to low.

Are we to believe that the limits are set properly now when almost every hwy I drive on has raised the speed limit by 5-10 mph in the last 10-15 years. By raising them are they not admitting that the old limits were wrong. What changed there are more cars per mile now than there were then. Cars got safer and better but were told the quality of the car has nothing to do with it. Heck a 30 something foot 10 wheeled truck carrying 77,000 lbs can go the same speed as a car by the current rules.

I live near the "city" of Brockton (really a big town) and they have it posted all over their city that the speed limit every where inside town lines is 35 mph or less where posted. Really there are no roads that warrant a 40 or 45 mph limit. Doesn't seem possible to me that not one road justifies a higher limit.

Some times I wonder how they set speed limits do they set up a map on a wall grab color coded darts "oh here is a 30 mph dart" through it at the map and see what road it hits.

My self I try to stay less than 10% over the posted limit (not because that's what is safe or what traffic is doing but because its as much as I am willing to gamble a officer will tolerate) only problem I run in to is unfamiliar roads that I don't know the posted limit. I know they have signs but some times you miss them watching out for the important thinks like other cars, people walking on the side, kids playing near the road, bicyclist in the road, animals near the road. Then you are just left guessing and I usually go 5-10 under what I feel save doing.

Rant over:

Now for you question about Facebook (I may be bit biased I don't do facebook my space or any social media other than a few forums) I would hope his boss hauled him in an give him a reminder how stupid posting something like that makes himself and his department look and to keep his online social participation to his personal life and to leave his work out of it.

[Scrappy Doo]

Couple things here:

1. It's the department facebook page so posting what they did is perfectly acceptable. Everyone else can post ridiculous, stupid things on their facebook pages, it's fine for LE too. Sometimes the best public service announcements are real world.

2. That law is messed up. It needs to be changed.

3. The driver is an idiot. Everyone knows to go out the middle of nowhere to haul it if you want to.

[Todd in Vancouver]

Lots of great feedback and yes I certainly don't condone speeding on residential street but some of the speed limits are intentially set low to bait drivers and make the police some $$$. The story gets better as it turns out the car was on dealer plates and is rumoured to belong to them and not a specific person so they are out a sellable car for a week.

It has been pointed out to me though that this is seperate from the forfeiture laws I mentiond (just happens to coincide time wise when this was released upon the public) as you get your car back after 7 days and $2K in fines. I am technically wrong calling it a forfeiture, but the time sure was convenient. Think of it as a reverse car rental where you pay someone else to keep your car for a weeks vacation. Truth is it'll never effect me because I do my crazy speeding at the track so I have no worries but it just bothers me that anyone has the legal right to take someones property without representation, a judge or jury or even a court case to discuss the particulars. When a cop can do it all at the side of the road without question I have a problem with that. Nothing against my Leo friends here but everyone makes mistakes and having this much power to wield is not a good thing.

We have just had out speed limits increased in BC through a group I belong to here and it was the same group who got rid of photo radar and its never returning. Here is a little video donr by Road Sense BC explaining how the whole speed limit system is rigged against us, atleast in BC, if you care to watch or share.

http://youtu.be/2BKdbxX1pDw



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[black79ta]

Good video did not watch the whole thing.

[JTruck]

Here in many states in USA, 20mph or over the posted speed limit is considered criminal, you can be arrested, put in jail and have your vehicle towed.

Don't find this any different.

[Snidely Whiplash]

Cops posting their work on social media sights are setting themselves up for citizens to follow them with a camera. Getting caught speeding or breaking laws on camera will lead to loss of a job, if law breaking is a habit of the cop while on duty. When one makes a film of law-breaking public employees a subject of a political meeting or election; bad things happen to those employees.

Jobs of municipal employees are ALWAYS subject to politics, especially in an election year. I know...I'm a retired public works superintendent.

[pickwithaustin]

Originally Posted by rebelyell22

People drive fast on the road, because they don't have anywhere else to do it. I wish they would take the money from these insane tickets and build places for us to go

Try a race track.

One can avoid impounding of their car if they obey the laws (wow, especially in a residential area - thank goodness no kid ran out in the road to get his ball).

[JTruck]

Originally Posted by rebelyell22

People drive fast on the road, because they don't have anywhere else to do it. I wish they would take the money from these insane tickets and build places for us to go

And that right there is the mentality of an adolescent. Instead of thinking about yourself, try thinking about those that are surrounding you on the road ways.

This is the result of speeding and idiocy, I had to stand at a double fatal last week for 6 hours. Guy going approximately 70mph in a 45mph zone, wasn't paying attention, ran a red light and collided with innocent man on his way to work. Speeder was ejected through the windshield and innocent was killed on impact, with a seat belt on. Speeder rolled, wrapped his vehicle around a traffic light poll.

If you care to see the pictures: http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/27...een-and-elliot

If you want to play with speed, do it in a controlled area.

[2010SLVRBULIT]

since when does breaking the law matter to what car is driven?

[hypercarfanatic]

A couple things -

1. Driver was a dumb ass. Take it to a track. Having a lamborghini does not give anyone the right to automatically double the speed limit, in a place where children are playing, people are trying to get out of their driveways, and things are happening. Take that street racing crap out to the middle of nowhere, or a track, and do it there.

2. The cop don't get revenue from tickets. He does not get paid more for the more tickets that he writes. The mythical "quota" is an urban legend. From your very biased recount of the event, it still sounds like the guy should of been pulled over and ticketed. It is my opinion that the amount of a ticket should be a set percentage of the MSRB of the car, to equalize the punishment among socioeconomic levels ~ $343 is not the same to Bill Gates as it is to the single mother of 2 special needs kids, working 3 jobs. If the guy can afford a lambo, I bet he is a bit better off, and the ticket doesn't mean much to him.

3. Yes, the dept. should pay tow damages, but the owner needs to prove that they damaged his car. Did he have pictures?

[shibbs]

Originally Posted by hypercarfanatic

2. The cop don't get revenue from tickets. He does not get paid more for the more tickets that he writes. The mythical "quota" is an urban legend.

This is only partially correct.
A good friend of mine is a police officer and they have "expectations" to meet. "Quotas" were once a thing, but are now illegal.

(In Minnesota, anyway, as that is all I can speak for)

[trashmanssd]

Originally Posted by shibbs

This is only partially correct.
A good friend of mine is a police officer and they have "expectations" to meet. "Quotas" were once a thing, but are now illegal.

(In Minnesota, anyway, as that is all I can speak for)

yeah it is a state by state and sometimes town by town case.

here is a link to an article where the state of Illinois just passed a bill eliminating police quotas for citations.

http://www.sj-r.com/article/20141011/Opinion/141019929

Even then they usually on a Station by Station case have there own system of keeping track of how many ticket individual officers give and how many stops they make to gauge what they are doing out there. If an officer gives 0 tickets all week they will assume he is sitting on his butt doing nothing not that people have obeyed the law.

Also Quota is the bad word but targets, goals, objectives, and many other phrases mean the same but are easier to sell.

[Spartan01]

Here's what I would do-
If I had the money to afford a Lambo, I would make nice-nice with the governor of my state.
I would invite the governor out for a spirited drive.
If I get pulled over, the governor can instantly pardon me.
I forgot to mention, I would also have damning photographs of the governor to coerce them into doing what I wanted.

[kalimus]

Originally Posted by Lgndryhr

102 KMH is equal to about 62 MPH so I guess I don't see the big deal.

The big deal was that he was doing that in a residential zone