2015 MUSTANG FIRST DRIVING REVIEWS

[Bhobbs]

The Performance Package is an add on to the GT just like the 1LE is to the SS. The 1LE is not a stand alone model like the BOSS.

After the success of the 1LE, I don't understand how Ford can drop the ball on the PP like they did. Not enough tire, brake or spring/dampening.

[RLHMARINES]

Originally Posted by khell86

You're right about the bottom line being sales, but its quite the opposite in regards to this not being an american icon. All the reviews are still saying it screams mustang and i agree, but Fords plan was to take this thing to next level looks/handling/tech wise and that is what they need in order to sell cars. The average buyer is not on forums researching mods and reviews, they're picking cars based upon how cool it looks and how it rides. Simple as that. Hence the majority of these cars being sold are the V6 models. Ford knows that and thats what they aimed for. The performance will come in due time when its needed. Right now its all about the look and tech. Why the 5th gen camaro was such a huge hit and dont worry, if the 6th gen tries to catch the mustang in tech, its weight is going to balloon as well. The tech on the new mustang rivals that of Audi's and BMW's.

You're kidding right? The mustang gained weight because it had to catch up to the Camaro in the ride and handling department which it may or may not have. It definitely did not catch up in the visual appeal arena with this new car thats for sure but I may be a little biased in that department.

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

They compared it to a 1LE? why, is this the track version stang? I don't know sh!t about mustangs...

There should be articles and videos comparing to the 1LE. I believe it will be closer than the last GT track pack but I think the edge goes to the 1LE for the reasons Bhobbs posted above. I see in the specs that the rear brakes are single piston caliper? I wonder why they decided on that? 1LE is only around 55 pounds heavier and had no problems handling a Boss with a 250lb curb weight and 18HP advantage. They definitely don't have an answer for the Z/28 right now and when the GT350 is released I hope there are still Z/28 comparisons though it should be out of production by the GT350's release.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by 87GNX

To be honest here, Ford made this car for the world scene. It doesnt look like an american icon anymore, but Ford is losing % sales to the Camaro as of today(not much but it's enough). The bottom line here is sales. How many can Ford sell? If they can meet their target, who cares about the loyalists. That is their analogy. It worked for them with the Sn/95 very nicely...

You have to admit that he has a point. Where was the love for loyal Mustang enthusiast in the 4th generation era. I mean Ford straight up got its butt kicked in performance during that time but Ford did not care. Know why? Because they were laughing all the way to the bank selling double the amount of Mustangs than GM was the Firebird AND Camaro combined. This is another reason why I think GM didn't do something to the power of the 5th gen mid model especially the L99. They were making great profits so why dip into those if they don't have to. Both companies would rather make money than satisfy the minority enthusiast. I don't condone it one bit but it is what it is. At the end of it all it's about one thing, money.

[87GNX]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

You have to admit that he has a point. Where was the love for loyal Mustang enthusiast in the 4th generation era. I mean Ford straight up got its butt kicked in performance during that time but Ford did not care. Know why? Because they were laughing all the way to the bank selling double the amount of Mustangs than GM was the Firebird AND Camaro combined. This is another reason why I think GM didn't do something to the power of the 5th gen mid model especially the L99. They were making great profits so why dip into those if they don't have to. Both companies would rather make money than satisfy the minority enthusiast. I don't condone it one bit but it is what it is. At the end of it all it's about one thing, money.

Money is always the bottom line. Loyalists can either benefit or suffer. Its a two way street indeed.

[LostPony]

Originally Posted by spideronjuice

Check this out! I mean Ford seems a couple more steps behind. This car was almost 47K! a GT Premium. This is the 2015 Mustang Gt Road and Track road test results. The 2013's Camaro SS/ 1LE's have better brakes, acceleration, and handling. I'm excited what GM has in store for 2016! What do you think?






Compared to:

2013 Camaro SS/1LE
BASE PRICE
$33,535
PRICE AS TESTED
$37,035
VEHICLE LAYOUT
Front engine, RWD, 4-pass, 2-door coupe
ENGINE
6.2L/426-hp/420-lb-ft OHV 16-valve V-8
TRANSMISSION
6-speed manual
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST)
3860 lb (53/47%)
WHEELBASE
112.3 in
LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT
190.4 x 75.5 x 54.2 in
0-60 MPH
4.3 sec
QUARTER MILE
12.7 sec @ 111.8 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH
101 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION
1.03 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT
24.2 sec @ 0.83 g (avg)
EPA CITY/HWY FUEL ECON
16/24 mpg
ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY
211/140 kW-hrs/100 miles
CO2 EMISSIONS
1.03 lb/mile

What's your point? I just went to the Chevrolet site and built a 1LE 2SS and it was over $46k. The car tested in the article, and supplied by Ford, was likely a heavily optioned car. The GT starts at $32k and change, and a new Camaro starts nearly $2k higher than that.

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-spor...kYWwiOltdfQ==@

[LostPony]

Mustang GT PP w/ Recaros = $37,015 This is as basic a car as you can get in a new GT with the current go fast goodies
http://bp3.ford.com/2015-Ford-Mustan...AA.GT.LESS.%5D

VS

Checking same options for 2015 Camaro 1SS 1LE with Recaros = $39,995.00

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-spor...VTU1BUlkifQ==@

I like you am awaiting a true match up between these two models. I am in no way saying the Mustang will beat a 1LE, just pointing out that the Mustang is still less expensive than an equivalent Camaro, option for option or package for package.

[BobDigi5060]

When will we get a look at the 6th Gen Camaro, when will it be available to the public? This time next year?

Ecoboost is the car to have, I'll take one now and decide on my V8 of choice when the GT gets DI and the next Camaro is out.

[BobDigi5060]

Originally Posted by LostPony

Mustang GT PP w/ Recaros = $37,015 This is as basic a car as you can get in a new GT with the current go fast goodies
http://bp3.ford.com/2015-Ford-Mustan...AA.GT.LESS.%5D

VS

Checking same options for 2015 Camaro 1SS 1LE with Recaros = $39,995.00

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-spor...VTU1BUlkifQ==@

I like you am awaiting a true match up between these two models. I am in no way saying the Mustang will beat a 1LE, just pointing out that the Mustang is still less expensive than an equivalent Camaro, option for option or package for package.

Did they ever pit the Boss against the 1LE? I can't recall.

[LostPony]

Originally Posted by BobDigi5060

Did they ever pit the Boss against the 1LE? I can't recall.

Yes, and the Boss lost! Supposedly Ford targeted the Boss as the benchmark for the GT. So far it appears they missed, at least in straight line testing. It remains to be seen if it will best the Boss, and/or the 1LE. I hold no illusions of grandeur!

[BobDigi5060]

I think 1/10th of a second and a higher trap speed is on target, but that's just me!

Read just about every EB and GT review, the car sounds like a different beast and the car appears to build confidence turn by turn. In my mind this will equate to higher limits at the track and overall better lap times.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by LostPony

Mustang GT PP w/ Recaros = $37,015 This is as basic a car as you can get in a new GT with the current go fast goodies
http://bp3.ford.com/2015-Ford-Mustan...AA.GT.LESS.%5D

VS

Checking same options for 2015 Camaro 1SS 1LE with Recaros = $39,995.00

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-spor...VTU1BUlkifQ==@

I like you am awaiting a true match up between these two models. I am in no way saying the Mustang will beat a 1LE, just pointing out that the Mustang is still less expensive than an equivalent Camaro, option for option or package for package.

So Ford built an inferior car for less money. If the Boss couldn't beat the 1LE, why would they benchmark the new car to it.

[1QwikZ28]

The new Mustang will be fine...it has been for 50 years. It will get better, it already has and always does. I am sure we will see several 12.6 runs stock. It is now an "all-around" car..term so often used on this site. I think its on point, and sets the stage for spectacular SVT editions.

[87GNX]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

So Ford built an inferior car for less money. If the Boss couldn't beat the 1LE, why would they benchmark the new car to it.

We gotta see what the PP GT vs the 1LE can do when they are pitted against eachother on a roadcourse, until then these reviews are just first observations.