2015 MUSTANG FIRST DRIVING REVIEWS - Page 9

Bhobbs · 09-18-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Go to the "Mustang vs. Z/28" thread, over there, and there are at least 4 pages of posts DELETED and those posters banned. They don't take nicely to ANY "reality" in certain regards...

Their forum has a weird issue with adding multiple blank pages. I've lurked over there for a while to read thePill's nonsense and it's always been like that.

He always bitches about the Z/28 having a 2.0 liter advantage but ignores the BOSS has 4 times the cams and twice the valves. How convenient of him.

motorhead · 09-18-2014, 04:53 PM

Ford does this with every first run of even new car they release. I'm sure it will get better. I don't understand their thinking in doing this, but they do. Remember the 05 GT only had 300 hp. I do however believe that this car is going to be a dude where it counts. Sales. The 05 was a huge hit.

Muscle Car Memories · 09-18-2014, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

Ford does this with every first run of even new car they release. I'm sure it will get better. I don't understand their thinking in doing this, but they do. Remember the 05 GT only had 300 hp. I do however believe that this car is going to be a dude where it counts. Sales. The 05 was a huge hit.

yes your right, Ford always holds back for some weird reason. I guess they dont want to spend the money unless Chevrolet forces them too

and I remember when the 2005 Mustang's hit the streets it was a huge hit!

LOWDOWN · 09-18-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

Ford does this with every first run of even new car they release. I'm sure it will get better. I don't understand their thinking in doing this, but they do. Remember the 05 GT only had 300 hp.

S.O.P. for many. As the model "matures" (read: ages), a little sumthin-sumthin needs to be added. New powertrain upgrades, new option packages/models, new colors/trims. To keep the sales wheels greased, a little added "spice" is preferred over REBATES...

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I do however believe that this car is going to be a dud where it counts. Sales. The 05 was a huge hit.

The '05 had how many competitors?

The tale of the SALES tape will be evident by MY '17. The first year of the new Mustang should be robust. As will the first year of the Camaro. By '17, the real head-to-head will happen, and who has read their tea leaves BEST will become evident...

However, if U.S. MY '15 sales of Mustang don't beat the now-fully-matured Camaro, oh-oh...

nester7929 · 09-18-2014, 06:09 PM

Ford doesn't really have any reason to drastically improve the '15 Mustang's speed over the '14. Lots of people will buy the car just for the new looks and the handling. The current setup is already quicker than the Camaro (albeit by just a hair), so Ford has little reason to spend money upping the power until the 6th gen Camaro shows up.

Ford did the same thing last time. They released a new body style, the Camaro came, and shortly after Ford put the 5.0 in the Mustang. It's the same plan of attack all over again.

Bhobbs · 09-18-2014, 06:11 PM

It sounds like this car was a big step up in quality and composure with the addition of IRS but they weren't focused on making it faster in a straight line. The power bump was the counter the weight increase and the engine mods were to bump the torque throughout the range.

I'm all for making a more refined and composed car but not at the cost of what makes the car a pony/muscle car.

Bhobbs · 09-18-2014, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nester7929

Ford doesn't really have any reason to drastically improve the '15 Mustang's speed over the '14. Lots of people will buy the car just for the new looks and the handling. The current setup is already quicker than the Camaro (albeit by just a hair), so Ford has little reason to spend money upping the power until the 6th gen Camaro shows up.

Ford did the same thing last time. They released a new body style, the Camaro came, and shortly after Ford put the 5.0 in the Mustang. It's the same plan of attack all over again.

I read that there were engineering issues with the 5.0 that delayed the release until the 2011 model year. They didn't specifically hold back on the Coyote.

Q'smuscle · 09-18-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

Ford does this with every first run of even new car they release. I'm sure it will get better. I don't understand their thinking in doing this, but they do. Remember the 05 GT only had 300 hp. I do however believe that this car is going to be a dude where it counts. Sales. The 05 was a huge hit.

Well everyone remember when those came out because that was the year that started all of this retro stuff and nobody else was doing it! That was the real reason why the O5's was a hit!

87GNX · 09-18-2014, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Q'smuscle

Well everyone remember when those came out because that was the year that started all of this retro stuff and nobody else was doing it! That was the real reason why the O5's was a hit!

That cuz no one was around other than Mustang.

nester7929 · 09-18-2014, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I read that there were engineering issues with the 5.0 that delayed the release until the 2011 model year. They didn't specifically hold back on the Coyote.

That's interesting, I hadn't heard that. What Ford ended up doing makes good business sense though.

Q'smuscle · 09-18-2014, 06:42 PM

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That cuz no one was around other than Mustang.

True ! And I was going to point that out but everyone else already did! And so far I agree with everything you have said since this thread started! I know you was waiting for this info , just to decide what car you was getting .

2010SLVRBULIT · 09-18-2014, 06:47 PM

..good read. Now we're talking 4 cylinder turbos?

Wonder how good it is for mpgs..

87GNX · 09-18-2014, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Q'smuscle

True ! And I was going to point that out but everyone else already did! And so far I agree with everything you have said since this thread started! I know you was waiting for this info , just to decide what car you was getting .

Yeah, Im looking hard at the next gen camaro now or a used 2013 GT 500....forget this new mustang. I never liked it from the beginning.

Angrybird 12 · 09-18-2014, 07:17 PM

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..good read. Now we're talking 4 cylinder turbos?

Wonder how good it is for mpgs..

I think I read it was 2 mpg better in the city and one better on the highway than the 14's V6, and the V6 loses one MPG for both and loses 5 HP from the 14's V6. I bet they detuned the V6 to get more people to pay the extra cost of the 4.

09-18-2014, 04:53 PM	#114
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,849	Ford does this with every first run of even new car they release. I'm sure it will get better. I don't understand their thinking in doing this, but they do. Remember the 05 GT only had 300 hp. I do however believe that this car is going to be a dude where it counts. Sales. The 05 was a huge hit.

09-18-2014, 06:09 PM	#117
nester7929 Rice Harvester Drives: 2014 Bright Yellow 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Plainview, TX Posts: 1,449	Ford doesn't really have any reason to drastically improve the '15 Mustang's speed over the '14. Lots of people will buy the car just for the new looks and the handling. The current setup is already quicker than the Camaro (albeit by just a hair), so Ford has little reason to spend money upping the power until the 6th gen Camaro shows up. Ford did the same thing last time. They released a new body style, the Camaro came, and shortly after Ford put the 5.0 in the Mustang. It's the same plan of attack all over again.

09-18-2014, 06:11 PM	#118
Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,991	It sounds like this car was a big step up in quality and composure with the addition of IRS but they weren't focused on making it faster in a straight line. The power bump was the counter the weight increase and the engine mods were to bump the torque throughout the range. I'm all for making a more refined and composed car but not at the cost of what makes the car a pony/muscle car.

09-18-2014, 06:47 PM	#124
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,524 View My Garage	..good read. Now we're talking 4 cylinder turbos? Wonder how good it is for mpgs..