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Old 08-24-2014, 10:17 AM   #29
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I mentioned this back in the new years thread, Joe Arko, host of Body Fuel tv has a bunch of great recipes posted on line, they are free, just sign up go to

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I'm going to chime in here. Back in April i decided enough was enough i was 43 40 lbs overweight and i looked like sh*t. Its the typical story your in shape get married have 3 kids and start a career you forget about taking care of yourself. You learn a lot about your body what works and does not work when it comes to food. There is a saying in the fitness industry its eat average look average. People who are in good shape and fit don't eat the average typical american diet. They do things very differently. The short answer find out what your TDEE is(total daily energy expenditure) and eat less then that the weight falls right off. Its a dynamic number it always changes as you lose weight. The weight scale does not tell the whole story. You want to lose body fat but not lose any muscle that's important imo. Those fad diets suck you lose muscle as well as fat so they are a really bad idea. Its the end of the summer now i have gone from 206 to 167 just shy of 40 lbs lost and my body fat started in the high 20's down to 11% and i'm the best shape of my life. Weight loss comes down to 4 things. Mental outlook,good nutrition,cardio and resistance training. You get those 4 things right you will look better then 90% of the population. Buy this book http://www.amazon.com/Burn-Fat-Feed-...eed+the+muscle its awesome. Once you understand how the human body works you will never struggle with weight loss ever again. Its a lifestyle change fad diets are stupid and expensive they don't work long term. Best of luck with your fitness journey.
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Yeah, I know it is a lot of sugar but those other recipes taste like eating "sticks & straw" as my brother-in-law would say. I can leave out the brown sugar, that one is pretty good without it. What about the Ice cream one? If I add more Banana it might be sweet enough but that is still sugar. I also plan to try some fruit sorbet recipes but when I crave ice cream is at night & I am trying to have protein in it so working on the ice cream first.
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You are all helpful but nuts. There is this thing called LIFE and the moronic dedication to health is silly.

Did you know the Father of jogging died of heart attack at age under 50?

You do what you can, but there is only so much time.

You think you have forever, but then you don't even get to say goodbye.

1/2 of the 100 year olds in the past century smoked cigarrettes.

3/4 drank alcohol, some everyday

NONE (0%) were vegetarians


Get my point? You can't predict this stuff.
I pretty much agree with this.....I think when you pass has more to do with genes than anything. My grandfather had 8 heart attacks total...died when he was 77. My father was SF in the Army....lifted some....ran 70 miles in his short weeks, 130 miles in his long weeks....had his chest cracked open the first time when he was 57. He has had 9 total bypasses and is 73 now.

So pretty much I'm screwed. But I do what I do mostly because of how it makes me feel now at this moment.
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I'm going to chime in here. Back in April i decided enough was enough i was 43 40 lbs overweight and i looked like sh*t. Its the typical story your in shape get married have 3 kids and start a career you forget about taking care of yourself. You learn a lot about your body what works and does not work when it comes to food. There is a saying in the fitness industry its eat average look average. People who are in good shape and fit don't eat the average typical american diet. They do things very differently. The short answer find out what your TDEE is(total daily energy expenditure) and eat less then that the weight falls right off. Its a dynamic number it always changes as you lose weight. The weight scale does not tell the whole story. You want to lose body fat but not lose any muscle that's important imo. Those fad diets suck you lose muscle as well as fat so they are a really bad idea. Its the end of the summer now i have gone from 206 to 167 just shy of 40 lbs lost and my body fat started in the high 20's down to 11% and i'm the best shape of my life. Weight loss comes down to 4 things. Mental outlook,good nutrition,cardio and resistance training. You get those 4 things right you will look better then 90% of the population. Buy this book http://www.amazon.com/Burn-Fat-Feed-...eed+the+muscle its awesome. Once you understand how the human body works you will never struggle with weight loss ever again. Its a lifestyle change fad diets are stupid and expensive they don't work long term. Best of luck with your fitness journey.

Tom Venuto's book is an excellent source of info, it's a nonsense approach and much of the knowledge share here comes from it.
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Tom Venuto's book is an excellent source of info, it's a nonsense approach and much of the knowledge share here comes from it.
When i first started my weight loss journey it was really hard. It seems like everyone in the field has a hidden agenda trying to sell you something. Then i found a web site called scoobys workshop its fantastic http://scoobysworkshop.com/. He use's no nonsense approach to fitness for natural lifters. His advice is rock solid imo. The results speak for themselves. Here is my before and after.

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When i first started my weight loss journey it was really hard. It seems like everyone in the field has a hidden agenda trying to sell you something. Then i found a web site called scoobys workshop its fantastic http://scoobysworkshop.com/. He use's no nonsense approach to fitness for natural lifters. His advice is rock solid imo. The results speak for themselves. Here is my before and after.

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I'm very familiar with Scoobie, he's kind of weird in his own way but his facts are right on. He has helped many with simple solutions anyone can follow. He no longer has Hus Chanel active, he was getting hasseled by other "fitness gurus" with an agenda and was even getting death threats. All of his stuff is still out here but nothing new.
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I found this on Pintrest today:

http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-ul...ing-guide.html

I just scanned it & most of it seems consistent with much of what my friends here have taught me. Like I said, I did not get into reading & trying to digest it in detail yet. It does seem like a good everything-in-one-place summary of important information if accurate. I just wanted my trusted gurus to check it out before I start using it as a reference. What say you guys?
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After reading it one thing I've noticed, especially on nutrition. It is no different than anything I or many others have suggested. They state that cals in cals out will determine if you gain or loose, there is no arguing that but they also state macro's will determine if that weight gain or loss will be fat or muscle. If you notice they also mention the 40/40/20 breakdown. Again everyone has their views but if you keep searching on line you will start to see a trend, there will be many that suggest vegan diets on one end to eat anything you want, just watch the cals on the other but the mainstream will be as in the article you posted. Different things will work for different people but watching cals and MACRO's will work for everyone.

As for the weight training, again nothing different than recommendations by me as well as others back in the new years thread. It is a very typical workout, using large muscle groups without a lot of isolation lifts. These programs work very well for gaining overall strength and size. If you go back to the new years thread, look at the two basic programs I listed, it is almost identical.

Don't keep looking for a magic fix, follow these guidelines and you WILL reach your goals, it's not easy and takes time and dedication but it WILL WORK!!!
More tough love.....

Recipes and all that is great....but Ruby, like CFD stated, you need to do resistance training and quit thinking you NEED an "exercise class". You will make better and faster progress when you start making training with free weights a priority. Until then, and until you make the ultimate commitment, you will continue to flounder.
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When i first started my weight loss journey it was really hard. It seems like everyone in the field has a hidden agenda trying to sell you something. Then i found a web site called scoobys workshop its fantastic http://scoobysworkshop.com/. He use's no nonsense approach to fitness for natural lifters. His advice is rock solid imo. The results speak for themselves. Here is my before and after.

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Great job. I'm sure you feel like a totally different person!
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Ruby I know it's a drive, but.....

If you'd like to make the trip to Cookeville and train with Monique and I for a weekend to get a crash course in free weights we'd love to have you.

This was the "fattest" picture I could find of Monique...with her ex who as a point of reference is 165lbs....she was about 190 in this picture...the week she started her transformation she was 206....



To this.....







Accomplished by a never wavering commitment, sprints, and free weights.
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Great job. I'm sure you feel like a totally different person!


Thank you. One thing you can appreciate once you get into shape is the hard work and dedication it takes. I have so much more respect for people in shape once you know how hard work it is. It really is a lifestyle more then anything. I personally always found gyms very intimidating as i always thought people would judge me but honestly everyone there is just doing there own thing minding there own business. My only gripe about the whole thing is how much more expensive healthy food is. People who eat healthy should be rewarded more then anything not penalized.
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I pretty much agree with this.....I think when you pass has more to do with genes than anything. My grandfather had 8 heart attacks total...died when he was 77. My father was SF in the Army....lifted some....ran 70 miles in his short weeks, 130 miles in his long weeks....had his chest cracked open the first time when he was 57. He has had 9 total bypasses and is 73 now.

So pretty much I'm screwed. But I do what I do mostly because of how it makes me feel now at this moment.
My dad died of some weird heart attack/blood clot thing at age 50. My brother died at age 36 after achilles tendon surgery, again, double pulmonary embolism, blood clots. I won't even fly anyplace more than 4 hours, sucks to have this kind of thing hanging over your head.
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I appreciate the offer Mydivorcegift. I know how to weight train. I took Weight Training, Body Mechanics (calisthenics), & Kinesiology in college & try to stay pretty up-to-date on new things that have been learned since then (since that was soooooooooooooo long ago). I have a wide variety of sizes of dumb bells and know how to use them.

Let me clarify what I mean when I say I need a class. To me the class is not just for the exercise. It is also important for me for social/emotional support, motivation & to have others pushing me. I need the routine of a time & place I am expected to be & friends who I know I will see & enjoy the company of while there. I need the instructor pushing me harder than I will push myself. On my own I will quit sooner, I just will. I know myself that well. Without the class I will make a million excuses not to do it or to do less of it. I truly have no appropriate space at home. I have absolutely no space to do any cardio stuff unless it is bearable weather outside.

I can drag my mat out, lay it in the middle of the living room floor blocking the path through the room. That is what I will end up doing. I'll get up early, before my husband and I will do it. I have done it before. I will make progress. I have done it before. But it will not be as much progress or as fast as I would do if I had a class or a personal trainer or something like that. and I will not have the social support I need. That is part of the reason I started the thread. I need you guys to push me.
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