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Old 07-07-2014, 04:51 PM   #1485
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Strong at 135. Probably have a 2x bw squat in you which for sure is good!

Form could for sure be better. When you are getting set up you should "erect" yourself so you are perpendicular to the floor. Tighten up. In the video you are bent at the waist and this is putting the weight over, or in front of the body. You are almost good morning'g the weight up.

Unlock your hips first and sit back. Knees are way out in front of your toes.
I also noticed that, kind of slouched over, back and neck should be more in line and as you said perpendicular to the floor.

It looks like it may be because he's resting the bar far back on the shoulders and is compensating for it. Thoughts on that?
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thank you, i do see what you mean by the start the forward lean instead of being in a straight line, but when i look at this picture it looks like I'm mimicking the low bar squat pretty well
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Old 07-07-2014, 05:01 PM   #1487
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I also noticed that, kind of slouched over, back and neck should be more in line and as you said perpendicular to the floor.

It looks like it may be because he's resting the bar far back on the shoulders and is compensating for it. Thoughts on that?
Is part of it for sure....but still loose through the core. He is folding down like an accordion if that makes sense.....and it's starting at his midsection then going down to his knees.
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thank you, i do see what you mean by the start the forward lean instead of being in a straight line, but when i look at this picture it looks like I'm mimicking the low bar squat pretty well
That picture is horrible and a sure fire recipe for bad knees as you get older....
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Old 07-07-2014, 05:04 PM   #1489
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thats a picture from mark rippletoes (highly respected) starting strength book, why do you say that?
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Old 07-07-2014, 05:11 PM   #1490
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thats a picture from mark rippletoes (highly respected) starting strength book, why do you say that?
If you notice with the low bar position the back and neck are straight to each other, in your video your neck is not in alignment, it's fairly straight but forward if that makes sense.
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my chin can be down ever so slightly, yes i see what you mean
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thats a picture from mark rippletoes (highly respected) starting strength book, why do you say that?
LOL I know who Mark is....

Watch this video....he squats "low bar" in competition. Look at the difference in the placement of the knees. Anytime your knee goes in front of your toes you are hyperextending all of the tendons and ligaments in your knees.

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while i respect your opinion i would most kindly disagree. What causes knee problem is stopping before parallel and coming back up. That takes the posterior chain out of the picture and puts more stress on the knees. The knee in front of the toe thing has been considered a myth for years
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while i respect your opinion i would most kindly disagree. What causes knee problem is stopping before parallel and coming back up. That takes the posterior chain out of the picture and puts more stress on the knees. The knee in front of the toe thing has been considered a myth for years
OK that's fine.

But partial squats do not hurt your knees if ALL of the weight is on the posterior chain....and you can partial squat doing this IF you unlock your hips first and sit back.
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The knee in front of the toes is not a myth but depends on overall form. If you try this you may notice it. No bar, just squat with a narrow stance your knees will extend further past your toes and I find it quite uncomfortable to the knee, with a slightly wider stance the knee will naturally extend forward less and is much more forgiving.
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i would also say what causes knee pain is squatting with your knees caving in, really want them to turn out...i often notice this with new clients that their knees cave in when squatting, usually a sign of weak quads
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i would also say what causes knee pain is squatting with your knees caving in, really want them to turn out...i often notice this with new clients that their knees cave in when squatting, usually a sign of weak quads
Quads have no business being associated with a back squat...
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Old 07-07-2014, 06:15 PM   #1498
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i would also say what causes knee pain is squatting with your knees caving in, really want them to turn out...i often notice this with new clients that their knees cave in when squatting, usually a sign of weak quads
But yes....caving in is not good either...
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