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Old 04-24-2014, 08:54 PM   #85
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Right, it's a sports car, so your telling me that the z/28 which was designed for the track, if you race it and the engine implodes, Chevy can fold their arms. Yeah ok. Don't design products for certain uses, then when being used for it's designed purpose, not stand behind it when it breaks.
Exactly!! Couldnt have said it better! If you dont want to warranty a car that YOU built specifically designed for racing, because the owner raced the car....dont build the damn thing!
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:58 PM   #86
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Safety reasons?

Right...I'd bet a significant amount of money that a TEENY TINY number of accidents result from having a line lock on a vehicle.
The number won't matter if the courts determine that having line lock included from the factory on a street vehicle contributed to an accident, especially if injuries or death occurs. Then look out Ford...just look all all the stupid videos on You Tube of inexperienced people doing burnouts on the street and crashing... This just makes it easier for more stupid people doing it...
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Old 04-24-2014, 09:29 PM   #87
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What's funny GT?
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Old 04-24-2014, 10:18 PM   #88
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The second page of this thread is awesome.

I don't care either way, offered or not, but if this was touted on a Camaro would everyone be talking about how stupid and douchey it is?

Some serious fanboyism in here. Intense even for the Other Automotive section.
I read the thread on mustang6 and there was some serious hate over this feature which surprised me. Personally I like it and it really saves the rear brakes. It will be especially nice for a manual car.
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Old 04-24-2014, 10:24 PM   #89
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The number won't matter if the courts determine that having line lock included from the factory on a street vehicle contributed to an accident, especially if injuries or death occurs. Then look out Ford...just look all all the stupid videos on You Tube of inexperienced people doing burnouts on the street and crashing... This just makes it easier for more stupid people doing it...

I could see it becoming an issue like. "Why would you offer an option front the factory to have the rear brakes not be applied. What happens if they take off and don't enable it again?" Does it kick back in after a certain time frame, or hitting a certain mph?

I just wanted to say that I'm not criticizing ford because I'm not a ford guy. I think ford makes a good product and really like the mustang. Another thing I though of is will the dealer still offer you the tire warranty when you purchase the car?

It didn't seem that it was something easily and accidentally achievable that you could hit he button and kill your brakes, which is a good thing. Making it hidden through menus is a good idea. Also, considering this is being controlled via computer, what's the chances the computer messes up and kills power to the rear brakes when your driving normally?
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:26 PM   #90
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I know one group of people that will love this..... Tire Manufacturers.
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:01 AM   #91
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Why would you need it on a boss (made for turning) or a Shelby (it has street tires)?

You do not need this crap unless you're modified for drag racing, and at that point I would install an aftermarket (probably better) system.

Only other reason to have this is if you're a douchbag...
Cars that turn still need to warm up their tires
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:19 AM   #92
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I believe Ford commented on the Line Lock Feature... stating it will void your warranty if racing against another vehicle / time. Ford went further into detail to go as far as saying if you use it on a private road / private property it does not void the warranty. They also mentioned that if you use it to test your quarter mile skills on a private road not against another driver or time, then it will not void your warranty either. Ford ALSO said if you're just using it to show off / show your friends then it will not void your warranty.

So they're pretty clear they don't want you to use it at a track unless you want to void warranty; but if you have friends and a private road and are just doing runs to mess with it, then it will not void the warranty.

i think the write up was by MotorTrend or Motor Authority, re posted by Jalopnik

In other words the engineers are giving you a way out while appeasing the lawyers who wanted the warranty void added. Just say you weren't racing.
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Cars that turn still need to warm up their tires
But not just the rear ones.....
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If we keep bitching when manufacturers add the features we want as enthusiasts, in spite of Lawyer and bean-counter protests, they'll just shrug and stop offering them to us. So racing voids the warranty, who gives a $%*#, the best track and drag cars never came with warranties in the first place.
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Old 04-25-2014, 07:45 AM   #95
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Ya, lemme tell ya... some serious Camaro fanboyism going on over here at the CAMARO5 FORUM. For the record, line locks on a Camaro SS from the factory would be equally as stupid. A huge number of teens drive these cars and all we need is a dealer option that increases their likelihood of driving stupidly on the street. Parents will buy it for their kids b/c they either don't know what it is or don't care.

If you must, offer it as an option on a specialty mustang, not your run of the mill GT.
So blame the parents, don't inhibit the responsible people who will use this accordingly from enjoying this. That's like saying we shouldnt offer V8's in these cars because kids will get their hands on them and wreck from all the power. Ford does offer a MyKey option, which allows parents to limit certain things with their car. I'm sure you can turn this option off and a few others with MyKey.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:25 AM   #96
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The number won't matter if the courts determine that having line lock included from the factory on a street vehicle contributed to an accident, especially if injuries or death occurs. Then look out Ford...just look all all the stupid videos on You Tube of inexperienced people doing burnouts on the street and crashing... This just makes it easier for more stupid people doing it...
How many times have Ford and GM been sued for offering cars with more than 200hp cause it makes it unsafe and easier to lose control? 300? 400? 500? 600?

Lots of cars come with launch control, they're screwed in your world too.

I imagine someone has been killed because they were in a Vert as well...damn manufacturers and their unsafe offerings.

There's a difference between a line loc and a set of firestones on an explorer or an ignition that is prone to turning off.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:49 AM   #97
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The number won't matter if the courts determine that having line lock included from the factory on a street vehicle contributed to an accident, especially if injuries or death occurs. Then look out Ford...just look all all the stupid videos on You Tube of inexperienced people doing burnouts on the street and crashing... This just makes it easier for more stupid people doing it...
So really by what your saying we also shouldn't even have the option of turning traction control off. Because it enables "stupid people" to do burn outs.
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Old 04-25-2014, 10:04 AM   #98
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But not just the rear ones.....
True, but I'm sure that with even just the rear wheels warm you can get on it and start getting lap times quicker. I may be wrong since I've never actually been on a racetrack myself
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