2011 Mustang 5.0 overrated? - Page 2

trademaster · 08-14-2013, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by maroman1138

Here's one for ya. What if the 5.0 weighed the same as the SS. Which would be quicker?

What if the Mustang had the same torque? What if both cars had the same power, weight, drag, gearing and tires?!

rontammy0 · 08-15-2013, 12:15 AM

I race my buddy all the time....2011 mustang 5.0 m6 with the track pack..373 gears with brembos on the front..he has borla cat back with airaid cai. Closed road of course...this is how it goes in real life. Hes a good driver. From a dig in m mode I pull 1 car length..when he shifts into second he pulls past me by a car length.early into third he still pulls until just before fourth we even out..i cant catch him ..hes not pulling.From a 20 roll with me still I m mode its almost the same result. These cars have very bad wheel hop. Now from a dig with me using the paddles....again I pull a length right away, we shift in second hes half way up my passengers door put hes not gaining. my car holds him off until we go into 3rd now he creeps up even into 4th and he pulls ahead. These cars pull hard with the 373 gears..ive not raced one that doesn't have the track pack..he even agrees its a better race with me tapshifting..even from a 20 roll tapshifting its almost the same result. I have magnaflow competition exhaust with solo hi flow cats and k@n typhoon cai. Keep in mind these races don't happen at the track but on a new road that's not open to public traffic, sometimes traction is a problem.....but its to much fun to complain

08-G35s/6MT · 08-15-2013, 03:00 AM

5.0's are overrated.

Here's a 5.0(intake/tune/axelaback on NT05R drag radials) versus vs Camaro5 member shiznight84. All he has is a hypertech tuner....

Fast forward to :31 seconds for direct race.

Stew · 08-15-2013, 09:14 AM

The Brembo package, was no track pack until 13 I believe, has nothing to do with straightline performance. You can get the 3.73 gears on any manual 5.0...........

MrandMrsNinja · 08-15-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 87GNX

You beat the driver not the car....5.0's are faster than SS from 2011 in stock form.

^ this.

I can speak from experience since I own both. The 6.2 pulls a lot harder from the dig, but once they start moving the 5.0 really shines. Both great engines in their own way.

big hammer · 08-15-2013, 09:18 PM

they really are a drivers race. mustang guys make it sound like they just destroy a 5th gen. but that isn't the case. the 5.0's I ran into sure didn't run like the ones in the internet.

rontammy0 · 08-15-2013, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew

The Brembo package, was no track pack until 13 I believe, has nothing to do with straightline performance. You can get the 3.73 gears on any manual 5.0...........

the mustang I race has the brembo brake package which the 373 gears..its not a track pack that's true...he selected the 373 gears as an option with that package..im not sure how many mustangs are running around with 373 gears.

62nalide · 08-16-2013, 12:23 AM

Them Boss stangs are crazy fast, with DRs and upgraded clutch they can hit 11s with track keys

L99CAMA2011 · 08-17-2013, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 87GNX

You beat the driver not the car....5.0's are faster than SS from 2011 in stock form.

Especially with those stock wheels you have.

Biscuitpie · 08-17-2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013 RaceRed 5.0

@1:14 "He chirped fourth?"

Yup, he sure did.

My 100% bone stock 5.0 (3.31/stick) chirps 4th even if I short shift it.

Seeing how the SS has similar power-to-weight ratios, don't they do the same?

Chirping gears has to be the dumbest way to compare performance. I chirped 4th in my 07 Shelby GT with boltons and 4.10s which is still a bit slower than a stock 5.0. It all comes down to the skinny tires Mustangs have for some retarded reason.

HeavyIOM · 08-17-2013, 04:19 PM

When my 5.0 was bone stock down to the tires, I raced a modded 10 Camaro M6 at the track multiple times. He just knew he would walk all over me. He kept reminding me of it too. He had full exhaust headers back, CAI, no tune, not sure what tire he was running but it wasn't a stock tire. All night the best he could do was 8.6. Mainly he stayed in the 8.7-8.8 range. I was running consistent 8.2 had a few odd ball 8.3's. My 60's were between 1.9-2.0. his 60ft was between 2.0-2.1. He wasn't a happy camper.

IMO if the 5.0 has a average to decent driver it will beat the Camaro in stock form. If the 5.0 has a bad driver the Camaro should beat the 5.0 even if the Camaro has a poor driver. the 5.0's are a lot harder to hook up then the Camaro IMO.

ChrisBlair · 08-17-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by maroman1138

Here's one for ya. What if the 5.0 weighed the same as the SS. Which would be quicker?

The one with the gearing advantage for the track being run

TheReaper · 08-17-2013, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cd3neil19

Last night I ran into a 5.0, and he actually got a jump on me from a dig because I wasn't paying attention. My SS was still able to pull in him and pass him and continue to pull away. I have experienced this more then once as well. All I have on my SS is a Magnaflow Competition exhaust. Are the 5.0s overrated or is the weight dropped from the mufflers being gone making that much of a difference needed to out run a 5.0?

It probably was a V6 with 5.0 emblems on it.

FLGator75 · 08-17-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by trademaster

What if the Mustang had the same torque? What if both cars had the same power, weight, drag, gearing and tires?!

AND the same driver, lol.

08-15-2013, 09:18 PM	#20
big hammer Drives: 2002 ws6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: manitoba Posts: 1,202	they really are a drivers race. mustang guys make it sound like they just destroy a 5th gen. but that isn't the case. the 5.0's I ran into sure didn't run like the ones in the internet. __________________ Bolt on 2002 ls1 Trans am--- 11.5 @ 121 (1.72) 2000 da

08-16-2013, 12:23 AM	#22
62nalide Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 4,102	Them Boss stangs are crazy fast, with DRs and upgraded clutch they can hit 11s with track keys __________________ https://frankensteined.net/ Martin@Frankensteined.net

08-15-2013, 12:15 AM	#16
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	I race my buddy all the time....2011 mustang 5.0 m6 with the track pack..373 gears with brembos on the front..he has borla cat back with airaid cai. Closed road of course...this is how it goes in real life. Hes a good driver. From a dig in m mode I pull 1 car length..when he shifts into second he pulls past me by a car length.early into third he still pulls until just before fourth we even out..i cant catch him ..hes not pulling.From a 20 roll with me still I m mode its almost the same result. These cars have very bad wheel hop. Now from a dig with me using the paddles....again I pull a length right away, we shift in second hes half way up my passengers door put hes not gaining. my car holds him off until we go into 3rd now he creeps up even into 4th and he pulls ahead. These cars pull hard with the 373 gears..ive not raced one that doesn't have the track pack..he even agrees its a better race with me tapshifting..even from a 20 roll tapshifting its almost the same result. I have magnaflow competition exhaust with solo hi flow cats and k@n typhoon cai. Keep in mind these races don't happen at the track but on a new road that's not open to public traffic, sometimes traction is a problem.....but its to much fun to complain

08-15-2013, 09:14 AM	#18
Stew Drives: 92 Luminadead/01 Dakota/97 F150 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Eastern, Ky Posts: 3,789	The Brembo package, was no track pack until 13 I believe, has nothing to do with straightline performance. You can get the 3.73 gears on any manual 5.0...........

08-17-2013, 04:19 PM	#25
HeavyIOM Drives: 2010 SS, 2000 Pontiac Formula Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Missouri Posts: 509	When my 5.0 was bone stock down to the tires, I raced a modded 10 Camaro M6 at the track multiple times. He just knew he would walk all over me. He kept reminding me of it too. He had full exhaust headers back, CAI, no tune, not sure what tire he was running but it wasn't a stock tire. All night the best he could do was 8.6. Mainly he stayed in the 8.7-8.8 range. I was running consistent 8.2 had a few odd ball 8.3's. My 60's were between 1.9-2.0. his 60ft was between 2.0-2.1. He wasn't a happy camper. IMO if the 5.0 has a average to decent driver it will beat the Camaro in stock form. If the 5.0 has a bad driver the Camaro should beat the 5.0 even if the Camaro has a poor driver. the 5.0's are a lot harder to hook up then the Camaro IMO.