Dey be dissin the ZL1 over at de udder forum..

[Mr Twisty]

I never clicked the link... Finding out "What mustang owners think of the Camaro", is at the bottom of my TO DO list today.... and every day.

[garcmol]

Originally Posted by ToolFan66

The only thing I agree with after reading this garbage is WGAS!!!

Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

I never clicked the link... Finding out "What mustang owners think of the Camaro", is at the bottom of my TO DO list today.... and every day.

Neither did I

[ffrcobra_65]

I never saw the ZL1 engine without the plastic cover until now. I guess I won't be taking the cover to show off the engine. No offense guys, that is fugly in there! What kind of a ugly blower is that?!? Hmmmm, I kinda promised I wouldnt mod the ZL1 but now, I think replacing the blower to get a bit more power and improve the looks without the cover.
I'm leaving the garage now to meet with friends at a Sunday car meet and greet. I hope to see a ZL1 in the crowd. I'll also be talking to some connected friends about the new GT500.

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Id rather look at this...

That looks tough...is that hood painted or carbon?

[Black GT]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

As if wearing the ZL1s shoes weren't enough...had to go and steal the quad tail pipes, too...tsktsk...not very original. Saving grace is that they don't have wicked-cool butterfly valve in them. I guess they aren't the same.

I believe it's the ZL1 wearing the GT500's shoes.

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by HufferSS

That looks tough...is that hood painted or carbon?

Thanx! Carbon. U can kinda see it in this pic.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by TheReaper

The quad pipes have been around for a while.

Not on the Camaro, Mustang or Challenger...

until now...

[TheReaper]

Originally Posted by mlee

Not on the Camaro, Mustang or Challenger...

until now...

I saw them hear in 1970.

[J666]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Id rather look at this...

Beautiful!

[mlee]

Originally Posted by TheReaper

I saw them hear in 1970.

LOL... I thought about looking for them, but figured I'd let you do it for me...

...so I guess the 2013 GT500 isn't copying the ZL1 after all...

[TheReaper]

I don't have to look it up all the pics I need are on my notebook. Here's a nice one.

[Black5thgen]

I don't understand why people keep bringing up an argument that the ZL1 will be faster because the GT500 won't be able to put the power down. How does the Camaro magically put down it's power to the ground? Does everyone believe that the Camaro engineers know some secret ford doesn't? There's a video of an average guy running the ZL1 down the 1/4 mile using TC and he couldn't break out if the 13's. Both cars will need a tires at the track and at that point the SRA will have an advantage over IRS on top of the GT500 having more power and weighing less. I just don't understand that argument and why it's thrown out in every GT500/ZL1 thread.

Also the ZL1 stole it's quad tail pipes and bi-mode exhaust from the Vette.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by Black5thgen

I don't understand why people keep bringing up an argument that the ZL1 will be faster because the GT500 won't be able to put the power down. How does the Camaro magically put down it's power to the ground? Does everyone believe that the Camaro engineers know some secret ford doesn't? There's a video of an average guy running the ZL1 down the 1/4 mile using TC and he couldn't break out if the 13's. Both cars will need a tires at the track and at that point the SRA will have an advantage over IRS on top of the GT500 having more power and weighing less. I just don't understand that argument and why it's thrown out in every GT500/ZL1 thread.

Also the ZL1 stole it's quad tail pipes and bi-mode exhaust from the Vette.

It's true for previous gt500s...but then again, it's true for any car with 500+ hp without help of a good launch control. Previous GT500 are impossible to hook up in low gear high rpm shoot on stock tires. Even the ZL1 with launch control will hop on hard launch when driven by an average driver. A lot of people still make that argument because the GT500 is not their car of interest therefore they know little of it but this is the internet and one doesn't get fined for spewing ignorance and misinformation. The new gt500 will finally have a much needed launch control. It will smoke the ZL1 in a straight line anywhere.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder and this is one "beholder" that finally found something to agree upon with the GT500 fanboys!

I went back and took a second look at the ZL1 engine photos and it looks like the without the cover photo is a development car. There are funny colored wires and a wiggly one going into the CAI at or near the MAF. I doubt the production engine looks any better.

Of course, the Ford fanboys didn't say much about how ugly the exterior of their GT500s are....I'm sure they wish Ford would make a plastic cover to hide that ugliness...I've seen better looking hemoroids!

The GT500 is not ugly, its just not as good looking as the Camaro. Now something like a EVO or Mazda turbo thingy is ugly.