So my dog bit my girlfriend...

[CamaroSkooter]

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

You are correct, but a pit is a viscious breed. They are so powerful for their size, they are hard to stop. Beautiful dogs, love them....but I hear people getting hurt more from that breed than any other.

Just like every time an automatic rifle is used in any kind of crime, it's always an AK-47.

Usually it's not, but that's the most recognizeable automatic rifle.

In the same respect, when you hear about dog attacks, someone always blames it on pit bulls. I've even seen instances where pit bulls were blamed and the animal in question wasn't even remotely close to a pit bull.

Dobermans, Great Danes, Rotweillers, and German Shephards (to name a few) can all be vicious animals too. They can all easily grow to be very large animals (especially the Danes). But all of the bad rep gets put on the Pit Bulls.

Why is it that if a dog is larger than a chihuahua it's considered a vicious breed? This is just an ignorant statement.

Every dog has the potential to be a "vicious" dog. Pit Bulls are no more prone to being vicious animals than any other dog breed. Pit Bulls are just more likely to have d***** bags as owners that don't know how to properly train a dog. Give those same owners a German Shepherd, and the dog would likely be just as vicious.

[MannyC]

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

Just like every time an automatic rifle is used in any kind of crime, it's always an AK-47.

Usually it's not, but that's the most recognizeable automatic rifle.

In the same respect, when you hear about dog attacks, someone always blames it on pit bulls. I've even seen instances where pit bulls were blamed and the animal in question wasn't even remotely close to a pit bull.

Dobermans, Great Danes, Rotweillers, and German Shephards (to name a few) can all be vicious animals too. They can all easily grow to be very large animals (especially the Danes). But all of the bad rep gets put on the Pit Bulls.

Why is it that if a dog is larger than a chihuahua it's considered a vicious breed? This is just an ignorant statement.

Every dog has the potential to be a "vicious" dog. Pit Bulls are no more prone to being vicious animals than any other dog breed. Pit Bulls are just more likely to have d***** bags as owners that don't know how to properly train a dog. Give those same owners a German Shepherd, and the dog would likely be just as vicious.

Im feeling a camaro/pit bull meet coming on...

[MannyC]

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

You are correct, but a pit is a viscious breed. They are so powerful for their size, they are hard to stop. Beautiful dogs, love them....but I hear people getting hurt more from that breed than any other.

Well I HEAR people who live in Louisiana are stupid. (Not true, just making a point)

[CamaroSkooter]

I've actually never owned a pit bull.

I'll never have any pets, to be honest. The whole feeding-and-cleaning-up-after-an-animal-that-I-pay-a-crapload-of-money-for concept is just beyond my comprehension...

[20Camaro11]

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

Just like every time an automatic rifle is used in any kind of crime, it's always an AK-47.

Usually it's not, but that's the most recognizeable automatic rifle.

In the same respect, when you hear about dog attacks, someone always blames it on pit bulls. I've even seen instances where pit bulls were blamed and the animal in question wasn't even remotely close to a pit bull.

Dobermans, Great Danes, Rotweillers, and German Shephards (to name a few) can all be vicious animals too. They can all easily grow to be very large animals (especially the Danes). But all of the bad rep gets put on the Pit Bulls.

Why is it that if a dog is larger than a chihuahua it's considered a vicious breed? This is just an ignorant statement.

Every dog has the potential to be a "vicious" dog. Pit Bulls are no more prone to being vicious animals than any other dog breed. Pit Bulls are just more likely to have d***** bags as owners that don't know how to properly train a dog. Give those same owners a German Shepherd, and the dog would likely be just as vicious.

There is some relevence to what has been stated. Statistics kept by multiple entities bear out the truth. Owners do play a major role in that to a degree, but reality is reality. I haven't seen a tragic/fatal Spaniel or Retriever attack in my life. People want to raise and keep their Rots, Pits, and Dobermans like they are any other dog...which is dangerous. Their size and natural instincts bred into them for years require and different approach. Yeah, a little Terrier might be a nipper, but it won't maul me, deform me, or worse yet...kill me. There is a reason insurance companies often refuse to insure home with certain breeds because its a losing game. Vicious dog attacks and maulings are the most expensive claim a homeowner will ever turn in. The OP is getting good advice in here on how to handle his dogs. They are great pets to him and I am certain with proper handling...will be for a long time.

[CamaroSkooter]

Originally Posted by 20Camaro11

There is some relevence to what has been stated. Statistics kept by multiple entities bear out the truth. Owners do play a major role in that to a degree, but reality is reality. I haven't seen a tragic/fatal Spaniel or Retriever attack in my life.

So, because you've never seen something, means it's never happened? Do you fail to see the fallacy in that?

Originally Posted by 20Camaro11

People want to raise and keep their Rots, Pits, and Dobermans like they are any other dog...which is dangerous. Their size and natural instincts bred into them for years require and different approach.

So far, this is all the responsibility of the dog owner, not the fault of the dog. Yes, a Pit Bull is a very strong animal. If you're buying one because it's "cute" without any understanding of what can go wrong if you don't train and raise the animal appropriately, then nothing the dog does is the dog's fault. That's all on the owner.

Originally Posted by 20Camaro11

Yeah, a little Terrier might be a nipper, but it won't maul me, deform me, or worse yet...kill me. There is a reason insurance companies often refuse to insure home with certain breeds because its a losing game. Vicious dog attacks and maulings are the most expensive claim a homeowner will ever turn in.

I dunno, I've met some devious terriers in the past

I imagine most insurance companies would refuse to insure those homes, not because the owner has a pit bull, but because the owner is a moron regardless of their choice of dog breed.

Originally Posted by 20Camaro11

The OP is getting good advice in here on how to handle his dogs. They are great pets to him and I am certain with proper handling...will be for a long time.

No argument there

[outlaw2]

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

You are correct, but a pit is a viscious breed. They are so powerful for their size, they are hard to stop. Beautiful dogs, love them....but I hear people getting hurt more from that breed than any other.

Back in the 60s and 70s it was the German Shepherd in the 80s is was the Dobie, 90s they picked on the Rotties and now its the dreaded PitBull, The same dog as in the little rascals (petey), The same dog that made RCA famous the same dog that thugs and gangbangers sport to show RAW POWER. Not that they can control, maintain and use that dog RESPECTFULLY as in some car owners do the same thing, only takes one to Screw it up for all and get that Label put on that breed or make and model of auto/bike..."Responsibility" you have to ask yourself...Do I have what it takes control such Power? If it took more then a second to answer than I would say NO. The biggest baddest dog or car on the planet is not always the Best...NEEDS and WANTS!...after that its PAY, PAY and PAY

[outlaw2]

On the lighter side MannyC I made sure my Girlfriend had her shots before I brought her home to meet the Wife...LMAO

[CamaroSkooter]

Originally Posted by outlaw2

Back in the 60s and 70s it was the German Shepherd in the 80s is was the Dobie, 90s they picked on the Rotties and now its the dreaded PitBull, The same dog as in the little rascals (petey), The same dog that made RCA famous the same dog that thugs and gangbangers sport to show RAW POWER. Not that they can control, maintain and use that dog RESPECTFULLY as in some car owners do the same thing, only takes one to Screw it up for all and get that Label put on that breed or make and model of auto/bike..."Responsibility" you have to ask yourself...Do I have what it takes control such Power? If it took more then a second to answer than I would say NO. The biggest baddest dog or car on the planet is not always the Best...NEEDS and WANTS!...after that its PAY, PAY and PAY

I thought the dog in the RCA commercials was a Jack Russell Terrier?

Maybe you're thinking of the Target dog, which is a Bull Terrier?

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

So, because you've never seen something, means it's never happened? Do you fail to see the fallacy in that?

I'm not even following this thread too closely, and I understand what he was trying to say. Basically, if it were common for retreiver to kill people, there would obviously be more reports about it, like pitbulls.

I hope this was just a troll attempt...

[outlaw2]

My bad Camaroskooter..Your right It was a "Viscious" Jack russel terrier and his name was "Nipper" cause he was always bitting people, good thing that bad dog died...in 1887

[MannyC]

Here are some myths of pit bulls...
http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html

[Moriartii]

MannyC I hope you get this taken care of as you seem to be sitting on a powder keg here. I think these dogs are one of the more beautiful animals as well as the more maligned breeds out there. One of my favorite breeds is the Stafford-shire Terrier, a brindle. Simply gorgeous!!

These animals are great dogs but do have an inherent tendency to be a bit more quick to light off than other breeds and with their strength it can look like violence. I do agree with HeRS in that the shock collar is/was a BAD idea. Positive reinforcement is much better than the negative of the shock collar. As the saying goes, there are rarely bad dogs only bad owners.

I think in reading through these posts there may be some behaviors on both the human side and the animals side that need to be trained out. I have had more than one dog in my 39 years; I started out as a bad owner and have learned over the years how to be a better one. There is a huge difference with training and education.

Again good luck and I am very glad your g/f didnt get hurt too bad and you got the whole authorities thing taken care of.
Cheers
K

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by MannyC

Here are some myths of pit bulls...
http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html

"Pit Bulls can hold on with their front teeth while chewing with their
back teeth."

I've never even heard of that. and if anyone believed that, they shouldn't be able to reproduce...