2010 GT500

[War Eagle]

Originally Posted by dieseldave24v

I heard that 70COPO just got a job working for SVT and is the lead design tech for the stripes on these cars. He said they would go the full length of the hood, down the bumper, across the oil pan, down the bell housing, onto the tranny pan, Single stripe down the drive shaft, back into two stripes across the third member of the diff and terminate on top of the license plate.

I just went out to the garage and checked. I did not see any stripes underneath but they do run down the center of my car on the inside and under the back seats. I had to lift the floor mats to see them, other owners should check it out also.

Steve

[2010_5thgen]

how bout drop the z and throw a 6,000 dollar blower on yourself?

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by fazm

its like saying v6 mustang or challenger srt8.

did you see the motivational poster I put up? lol



(and yes I know you are comparing price and not performance. just having fun.

Originally Posted by Camaro Lives On

Oh and for the record, I do know a little more about cars than you think, I was just wrong.

your posts are forever neglected in the minds of readers on here. you should know that you can only post completely factual information on the internet. its serious business

Originally Posted by kevin2323

i hate you all....

thats my line.....

Originally Posted by fazm

and someone can do that to a civic and beat your camaro, etc etc etc

it'll take more money than that to make a civic that fast....

Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid

Exactly. 150 shot on the SS would make a drag race with a GT500 interesting.
Same goes with the 'Stang though.

yeah, but only in the 1/4. gotta fill up that nitrous tank sooner or later.... the GT500 has the power all the time.

Originally Posted by gtahvit

Ok now this is really my favorite thread.



EDIT
However, we really shouldn't make fun of COPO's passion. What's done is done.

what has been seen........................










can not be unseen

Originally Posted by War Eagle

I just went out to the garage and checked. I did not see any stripes underneath but they do run down the center of my car on the inside and under the back seats. I had to lift the floor mats to see them, other owners should check it out also.

Steve

did you check under the car to see if they went down the underside of the body?

[str8himalaya]

I might as well get in on this too. Here is my .02. The GT500 is a nice looking car, don't think it is as aggressive looking as the camaro, but is good for a mustang to say the least. Here what i don't get...why are we comparing a (most likely after all markups) a 50k+ car to a 31k car? I mean a base SS costs you 31k, and we are just talking performance right now. 19k is a lot, i can go buy a new silverado for that, or a used GTO. lol. I mean thats a lot of money to just ignore. Even if you did get a GT500 for 45k its still 14k difference. Wow, i just can't ignore that fact in this arguement. You can get a used z06 that would probably blow the doors off a gt500 for that money. Just a thought though. Of course a car that is 10k+ more is going to perform better, duh. Around the track it probably won't, which is sad, but in a straight line, have fun. But like was said, dollar for dollar, a camaro can be faster than a GT500. Put a cap on it, and i think the camaro would still win.

[Inspector 17]

Originally Posted by gtahvit

Ok now this is really my favorite thread.



EDIT
However, we really shouldn't make fun of COPO's passion. What's done is done.

Hey, it's only fair that everyone gets equal treatment.

[garagelogic]

We're doing his because it's all there is to do while were waiting on the production Camaro's to get into owners hands. 90% of what has been thrown out in this thread is speculation or hearsay regarding the actual performance of both cars and it will remain so until both the Camaro and Mustang variants hit he streets, drag strips and road courses.

The only people who are comparing the SS Camaro to the GT500 are the die-hard GM people that cannot seem to handle the fact that GM does not currently produce a pony car that competes directly with the GT500. If/when they produce one, then I will be one of the first people looking to buy one to put in the garage next to the GT500.

In the end, this is the performance hierarchy,as they stand today, between the Mustang and the Camaro in stock form:

GT500>Camaro SS>MustangGT>Camaro V6>Mustang V6.

Once we have verified performance data, this could very well change, but for now, this is how it looks to play out.

[2sharp]

Originally Posted by The_Beast_

not a fan of the inside, exteriors fine but interior just ruins it for me. So overall: 4/10, because I can.

What dont you like about the inside....?? I think it is very modern, well laid out and pretty darn good looking, especially feature wise. Unfortunately, I'm still unsure about the Camaro center-stack (radio console). I'm still thinking it looks a little too gimicky

[War Eagle]

Have there been any 2010 Camaros on Ebay yet, if so I have not seen any. I did come across this 2010 GT 500 however. When the Camaros do hit Ebay it will be interesting to see what the Dealers try to get for them.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318

Steve

[Punk_rider]

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

I'm sorry to say guys but this thing is friggin' awesome. Thank god this thing looks soooo much better than the GT. I love it. I want one, but of coarse, the Camaro will be in my garage first. splooge

GT500

Yup. It looks good ... that's reason why ... well ONE of the reasons why ... we NEED a 550HP Z28 AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

[BryGo]

Originally Posted by War Eagle

Have there been any 2010 Camaros on Ebay yet, if so I have not seen any. I did come across this 2010 GT 500 however.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318

Steve

There have been a few "spots" posted by dealers. One auction, about a month ago, was at a buy it now of $50,000 and was for the first "dealer allocated" car of theirs. It was somewhere in Texas. It never got a bid.

Another was for a bid for "your deposit, and spot on the waitlist." According to the listing, the higher the bid, the higher on the waitlist priority you would be. That bid got up to $4850, then the auction cancelled. That was from a dealer in Ohio.

Some of these activities should be illegal. This one above reminds me of the whole Illinois scandal going on right now. Pay to play....

[War Eagle]

Originally Posted by BryGo

There have been a few "spots" posted by dealers. One auction, about a month ago, was at a buy it now of $50,000 and was for the first "dealer allocated" car of theirs. It was somewhere in Texas. It never got a bid.

Another was for a bid for "your deposit, and spot on the waitlist." According to the listing, the higher the bid, the higher on the waitlist priority you would be. That bid got up to $4850, then the auction cancelled. That was from a dealer in Ohio.

Some of these activities should be illegal. This one above reminds me of the whole Illinois scandal going on right now. Pay to play....

You also have to watch the fine print or lack of. Some Dealers charge up to $750 Dealer Doc fees, while some are as low as $150. This is a hidden mark up. On my last new car I bought the end of Nov. the Doc fee was $579 but I negotiated it down to $379 plus free delivery.

Steve

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by War Eagle

You also have to watch the fine print or lack of. Some Dealers charge up to $750 Dealer Doc fees, while some are as low as $150. This is a hidden mark up. On my last new car I bought the end of Nov. the Doc fee was $579 but I negotiated it down to $379 plus free delivery.

Steve

Document fees are 100% dealer profit and you should be able to get out of them altogether if you will just hold your ground in the finance department. Most dealers wait to spring this on you right before you sign for the car knowing full well 99.9% of buyers will not walk out on the deal for a few hundred dollars. I've walked away from at least 3 deals, in the finance office, due to "doc fees". In each case, the dealer agreed not to charge me the fee. You have to remember, the dealer has time and money tied up in the deal too, and they don't want to walk away from a sure sale either.

Originally Posted by str8himalaya

I might as well get in on this too. Here is my .02. The GT500 is a nice looking car, don't think it is as aggressive looking as the camaro, but is good for a mustang to say the least. Here what i don't get...why are we comparing a (most likely after all markups) a 50k+ car to a 31k car? I mean a base SS costs you 31k, and we are just talking performance right now. 19k is a lot, i can go buy a new silverado for that, or a used GTO. lol. I mean thats a lot of money to just ignore. Even if you did get a GT500 for 45k its still 14k difference. Wow, i just can't ignore that fact in this arguement. You can get a used z06 that would probably blow the doors off a gt500 for that money. Just a thought though. Of course a car that is 10k+ more is going to perform better, duh. Around the track it probably won't, which is sad, but in a straight line, have fun. But like was said, dollar for dollar, a camaro can be faster than a GT500. Put a cap on it, and i think the camaro would still win.

All the other drivel aside, why do so many people quote the base price (employee base price, at that) of a 2SS Camaro [$30,738.45] and then use the fully loaded MSRP for the GT500 when making comparisons?

Here is the reality, based on MSRP of a fully-optioned car from each camp (using Edmunds.com):

A fully optioned GT500 has an MSRP of $51,575


A fully optioned 2SS has an MSRP of $39,595


That is not a $19K difference, it's $11,980. Yes, that is still a pretty big gap in price, nobody can argue that, but please, let's dispense with the idea that the MSRP on a 2SS is going to be $31K.

[JJ#48Racing]

The new GT500 is a great looking car. It kills me that Ford will have the king of the road title in the power category. God I wish a Z28 model would come out, the LSA would be a perfect match for this Ford.

[KILLER74Z28]

I like it, it looks good and it will be interesting to see what the 40 HP and suspension tune do for it…

Anyone else think the front end is starting to resemble the Super Duty front end a little???

Sorry had to…