Spy shot's of the 2011 Charger!!!

[kevin2323]

here it is with painted front nose, looks amazing IMO

[DGthe3]

After catching up, I have to say:

If you can't post a reasonable, mature argument, for or against, then don't hit the submit button. Just watch by the sidelines.

back to the discussion ...

Originally Posted by StuntmanMike

The Camaro and Mustang and Challenger continue that concept today. But for the Charger, it was dropped. When I picture a 400 HP beast of a car, I don't picture a car that a family of 4 can fit comfortably in.

Look at all the reviews of the Camaro, Mustang, Challenger. They almost all knock the back seats and then in the very next sentence they say "But that's not why you're buying a 400 HP muscle car, now is it?"

The new Charger looks like a sedan version of the Magnum. Neither of which scream 'beastly muscle car' to me. Hell, the Charger and the Magnum share the same front end for crying out loud. The Charger should be called the 4-door Magnum, not a Charger. The imagine instilled by the classic Charger is lost in its new namesake.

I don't see much of the Charger in the Magnum. Standard Dodge crosshair themed fascia? Sure, I don't see much more resemblance than between the front end of a Malibu and the Cruze. It much more closely resembles the 300, and in Europe the Magnum was sold as the 300 wagon. Aside from the fascia, the front half of both the 300 and Magnum are practically identical. Not so with the Charger. Even the facia of the 300 and the Magnum are extremely similar.

As for being practicality, in the early 2000's Daimler-Chrysler needed a car with mass appeal for Dodge. Something thats impractical doesn't have mass appeal. Before you go thinking this is some sort of blasphemy, you could fit a family of 4 into a classic Charger without much trouble. It a large car and the super long doors made entry and exit into the rear relatively easy (especially for kids) and compared to smaller 2 door cars the extra size allowed for more passenger space in the rear, making it reasonably comforable.

Also, there weren't many Chargers that had 400+ hp. We think of it purely as a muscle car with a big 426 hemi, but those were very rare. Under modern power ratings, few would have made more than 300 hp, let alone 400.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

After catching up, I have to say:

If you can't post a reasonable, mature argument, for or against, then don't hit the submit button. Just watch by the sidelines.

back to the discussion ...


I don't see much of the Charger in the Magnum. Standard Dodge crosshair themed fascia? Sure, I don't see much more resemblance than between the front end of a Malibu and the Cruze. It much more closely resembles the 300, and in Europe the Magnum was sold as the 300 wagon. Aside from the fascia, the front half of both the 300 and Magnum are practically identical. Not so with the Charger. Even the facia of the 300 and the Magnum are extremely similar.

As for being practicality, in the early 2000's Daimler-Chrysler needed a car with mass appeal for Dodge. Something thats impractical doesn't have mass appeal. Before you go thinking this is some sort of blasphemy, you could fit a family of 4 into a classic Charger without much trouble. It a large car and the super long doors made entry and exit into the rear relatively easy (especially for kids) and compared to smaller 2 door cars the extra size allowed for more passenger space in the rear, making it reasonably comforable.

Also, there weren't many Chargers that had 400+ hp. We think of it purely as a muscle car with a big 426 hemi, but those were very rare. Under modern power ratings, few would have made more than 300 hp, let alone 400.

not only that, it sold very well too. So it wasnt like they came out with it and people were screaming foul play. It got the attention of people all over and sold very very well.

[StuntmanMike]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

As for being practicality, in the early 2000's Daimler-Chrysler needed a car with mass appeal for Dodge. Something thats impractical doesn't have mass appeal. Before you go thinking this is some sort of blasphemy, you could fit a family of 4 into a classic Charger without much trouble. It a large car and the super long doors made entry and exit into the rear relatively easy (especially for kids) and compared to smaller 2 door cars the extra size allowed for more passenger space in the rear, making it reasonably comforable.

This just supports the fact that they should have left the car as it was. If you had no trouble getting in back when it had 2 doors, it didn't need 4.

At the very least they should have *offered* a 2-door option.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by StuntmanMike

This just supports the fact that they should have left the car as it was. If you had no trouble getting in back when it had 2 doors, it didn't need 4.

At the very least they should have *offered* a 2-door option.

a two door option would have been awesome but i dont think a 2 door full sized car would be very popular or practical today. It seemed like people were more willing to pay for style over practicality in the past, maybe because cars are so expensive today, people arent willing to take that leap and want more from their cars. just guessing though

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by StuntmanMike

This just supports the fact that they should have left the car as it was. If you had no trouble getting in back when it had 2 doors, it didn't need 4.

At the very least they should have *offered* a 2-door option.

Getting kids into the back seat of a car isn't the same as it was 40 years ago ... and neither are side impact regulations.

[fielderLS3]

Large, 2 door cars where cool and had their time and place, but that style has run its course. Today, it wouldn't sell enough to make up the engineering costs, which is why we don't have the Thunderbird and Monte Carlo anymore. The side impact regulations might be part of it. I imagine that takes away some of the design freedom that made access easier with 2-doors in the past.

[Camaro Lives On]

Found this while searching for more pictures on google.

The picture has been elongated a little, I'm guessing. After comparing it to spy shots, I shrank it back do the size that seems to match up. Here's what I got.

The first picture is resized, the second is compared to a spy shot (body lines in red, window lines in black), the third is the full sized spy shot that I compared it to, the 4th is my point for posting these.... Do the body lines look familiar to anyone? to Dodge for listening... even if it still has 4 doors. I really want to see the finished product

[Camaro Lives On]

Also here is the interior...

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by Camaro Lives On

Also here is the interior...

just to note that is the v6 model.

[Camaro Lives On]

Originally Posted by kevin2323

just to note that is the v6 model.

Thank you for pointing that out... i just found it and posted it.

[Thrillz]

The only charger i would get would be the super bee its a great looking car imo. My biggest gripe about the car no standard transmission Because of that i would buy a G8 GXP.

[HeHasReturned]

A standard srt8 with that 6.4l engine would be beast

[prostock69]

I love the Dodge Charger. I traded in my 07' RT for my beloved Camaro. Actually, the four doors are great if you have kids. Will there be a change in the hp in the engines (RT/SRT8)?