The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[fazm]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

Are you sure? Someone specifically said (Mustang guy) that Evo didn't have the money so the magazine was footing the bill. Maybe they were wrong? Do you have any proof or are you just assuming?

it was brought up on mustangsource before, and was posted that the mags were not paying for it, ill try to find a link

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

Are you sure? Someone specifically said (Mustang guy) that Evo didn't have the money so the magazine was footing the bill. Maybe they were wrong? Do you have any proof or are you just assuming?

Didn't have the money for what? They've probably only put like 6k in the car...

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Didn't have the money for what? They've probably only put like 6k in the car...

Buying the cars and mods. However I could very well be wrong, it's just what I heard from the Mustang boards and it made sense.

[fazm]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

Buying the cars and mods. However I could very well be wrong, it's just what I heard from the Mustang boards and it made sense.

found it that took a while

Originally Posted by Evolution Performance

5.0 Mustang and Super Fords are doing one of many articles on this car, so full details can't be published! We're NOT getting any funding from them, we're bank rolling the whole thing!



The car is being Tuned but how can't be discussed at this time!



We will have Videos up later tonight or Saturday I promise!

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Never said it was fake bro. Just saying. Magazines and real world are completely different stories. Mags rated the camaro as a 13.0 car, yet I have never run that... Lots of SS's run mid 13s to low 14s... I've been guilty of running some 14 runs because of horrible launches and bad track prep.

I know what the cars are capable of, but then again, let's talk real world. We know the 5th gen is capable of at least a 12.58 stock, while the 5.0 is capable of a 12.7, but let's be honest, we won't be seeing many 5th gens running 12.5s and I will only believe the 5.0 to be a high 12 car when I actually see them running.

Dude, you must be running at Thunder Valley and we both know nobody runs good at that track brother. It is not real world there it is Purgatory. I can say for sure that my 4th gen was every bit as fast as my new fith gen dont ask me why or how it just is and I have yet to run my 5th gen.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by 9c1ny

lets see a camaro do this-

Originally Posted by Evolution Performance
First 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L 4V in The 10's N/A - 10.97 @ 124MPH - 1.49 60ft

It was 86 Degrees out and the Baro was horrible.

The Video will be posted tomorrow!

STOCK MOTOR and TRANNY, no nitrous!!!!!

C&L Cold air
Tune - more aggressive now
X-pipe
Catback
control arms
Slicks/skinnies
Weight reduction




lol theres Camaros with superchargers and spray that cant crack 11s!!!!

Ok, WTF! that is just crazy for those mods. The only way I can see that trap speed is if they pulled everything and I mean everything out of the car and the tune was for balls out race gas. You guys do realize the 3200lb ZO6 with 500hp runs this trap speed and time with a drag radial. So to me they had to pull 300lbs from the car and gain 88hp? I am not saying it didnt happen or flying the bs flag but come on this is getting insane. I just cant see it from pump gas and full weight. Very, very impressive anyhow. I guess Ford finally got tired of being beat for the past 43yrs. Good job this year Ford, my hats off to you.

[KungFuHamster]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

Ok, WTF! that is just crazy for those mods. The only way I can see that trap speed is if they pulled everything and I mean everything out of the car and the tune was for balls out race gas. You guys do realize the 3200lb ZO6 with 500hp runs this trap speed and time with a drag radial. So to me they had to pull 300lbs from the car and gain 88hp? I am not saying it didnt happen or flying the bs flag but come on this is getting insane. I just cant see it from pump gas and full weight. Very, very impressive anyhow. I guess Ford finally got tired of being beat for the past 43yrs. Good job this year Ford, my hats off to you.

not sure about race gas but they did a bit of weight reduction yes. and past 43 yrs? including 2003-2009?

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by EnvyTerra

10.97 all motor? oh man that's serious!!!! wtf

WOW!! If this is true about being NA it is just plain amazing!! Doesnt matter what they did to whether it be taking weight out or full bolt ons with suspension upgrades. As far as I know the first CAI just came out for these cars, so im pretty certain this was all done with stock displacement, stock camshaft(s),stock intake manifold, and stock heads which is just insane!!

Screw all this crying and excuses, im a "hemi guy" and have no problem facing the facts that this new mustang is top dog plain n simple. The car is faster than our current hemi's and Gen5 camaros, PERIOD.

Men lie women lie NUMBERS DONT. It usually takes big displacement and some sort of power adder to get our hemi's and your Gen5's in 10sec territory, this car is doing it with stock engine with bolt on's NA!!

yea but its got weight takin out,solid axle, skinnies, slicks....blah blah blah blah save it! The car ran the number! THE END.

[KungFuHamster]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

As far as I know the first CAI just came out for these cars, so im pretty certain this was all done with stock displacement, stock camshaft(s),stock intake manifold, and stock heads which is just insane!!

yes. there are no aftermarket cams (for this particular 4V), stock intake manifold and there are no aftermarket 4V heads regardless of year. stock longblock.

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Mustang is just plain lighter. You cut a few hundred pounds off a camaro and it'll be running better times since its 6.2 has a lot more potential.

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

It is just as responsive, if not more, than the 5.0 to bolt ons. The problem is the IRS and the weight. A camaro may be making more power than the 5.0 running 10s, but the weight and the IRS keep it from keeping up.

How can you possibly be so sure of this??? This is a BRAND NEW engine from ford that has little to no aftermarket support(yet), yet you seem to know how its going to react to future mods that arent even developed??

I mean the damn thing just got its first CAI, as far as I know it has no long tubes, no throttle bodies, no intake manifolds, no camshafts, no heads (though i did hear a shop or two are experimenting with porting the stock cast heads), and surely no aftermarket heads, etc etc.

Rant over.

[BigDan]

Evan Smith's DR pass 12.3@110
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...156/index.html

[VADER SS L99]

All I do know is that Ford designed the overall engine with a supercharger in mind. People are probably going to have to replace rods and pistons when steping up to FI with these cars but if this car can do 10's with bolt ons its just scary to think of a new bottom end build or shortblock with a good power adder. And in all truth I would love to take some seats and things out of my car, put on some different wheels and tires, drive to the track, fill the tank with race gas, load a new tune and bust out some 10's. I mean almost anyone would be capable of 10's with a brand new GT with less invested than what I probably already have. I now know what all the Mustang owners felt back when I had my 4th gen.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by BigDan

Evan Smith's DR pass 12.3@110
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...156/index.html

He is supposed to run that time with street tires.

Also that trap speed is way too slow for a 5.0.

What is going on here?

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

All I do know is that Ford designed the overall engine with a supercharger in mind. People are probably going to have to replace rods and pistons when steping up to FI with these cars but if this car can do 10's with bolt ons its just scary to think of a new bottom end build or shortblock with a good power adder. And in all truth I would love to take some seats and things out of my car, put on some different wheels and tires, drive to the track, fill the tank with race gas, load a new tune and bust out some 10's. I mean almost anyone would be capable of 10's with a brand new GT with less invested than what I probably already have. I now know what all the Mustang owners felt back when I had my 4th gen.

LOL calm down it aint THAT bad. Im a fan of the new Mustang but i think evolution performance muddied the water by doing weight reduction, at least for our measuring purposes. I would have liked to see what they can do with a mostly stock weighted car (one that most of us would race against), we dont even know how much weight they got rid of which turns everything into some kind of mystery. Good if youre a racer but bad for people trying to gauge this car/engines capability.