The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[305pride]

meh

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

Except that the MPH is definitely question. It seems people are saying that the Sacremento track reads high in the trap, but the ET is still good!

Also, the Camaro also ran the same ET as him, just not when he was racing him.

i need to get back there (to Sac). I know when i went there last year, the MPH numbers were not inflated. But looking at that slip, looks like the left side of that track was ~3 mph too high. Is there any runs from the mustang running on the right side?

[garagelogic]

I always liked this one that they released right before the 2005 hit the showrooms. Not only does it feature a Mustang, but the Ford GT and the Shelby Cobra concept car, as well.

[VetteMaro]

Originally Posted by fazm

they ran the 10.58 on 100shot, i heard they were going bigger, but havent tracked it since then

so TWICE the shot of nitrous lol and more mods. and the mustang doesnt have a fully optimised drag suspension. it has control arms lol.

and doesnt orangechevy have a cam?

It has a 125 shot, check this link:
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...ph-bumper.html

You are right about orangechevy having a cam, i forgot about that sorry. But im pretty sure that the stang has a bit more done to it's suspension than just controls arms, i'll check and get back to you.

And for the record orangechevy's trap speed is about 7 miles hugher than the stang, i know it has a bigger shot of N2O and plus a cam. And it is clear that the stang launches MUCH harder than the camaro, going by it's 1.4' 60 ft ..

Lets keep this rivalry alive! It's what is going to bring us a better camaro

EDIT: i couldn't find the thread about the other suspension mods, but here is a thread where people 'think' (check out PSUCOBRA96's post)that there were other mods involved in that run, i dont know why they aren't very clear about the mods :
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...s-100shot.html

[Dave McFly]

the Steve McQueen one is still my all time fave Mustang ad .


"If you build it, he will come."

[VetteMaro]

And yup evolution's 5.0 has an aftermarket clutch as well. It's not a huge thing i know, but i regularly drove my brother's full bolton 05 stang, and believe me, it DOES make a difference

[DeathChill]

Not sure, waiting for someone to run at a different track now.

[guiLT]

Awesome!

[AmericanMuscle4.6GT]

The new 5.0 GT has spectacular potential for light modding. Contrary to what most people here wish to believe, it DOES respond well to minor bolt ons like a cai/tune/exhaust. However, the weakness in the motor itself lies in 2 areas. 1) the internals are NOT very strong, according to my sources its got the same toothpick I-beam rods my car has, and rods are usually the weak link when it comes to internals. this, coupled with the stock 11:1 SCR, means that while this car will make power on boost, its not a setup you can "set and forget"......it would seem to me that anything over 6 PSI is pretty risky on the new coyote motor, you can't just supercharge it and run it every day and beat on it. In addition, naturally aspirated mods are pretty limited. It is an OHC motor, and i don't think you can swap cams/heads and get 500 rwhp like its been shown is possible on an LS3. Plus, the stock heads on the 5.0 already flow better than stock gt500 heads, so im not sure what, if any, room there is for improvement other than eliminating emissions chamfering and other such factory crap.


my opinion? for small bolt on mods the 5.0 has great bang for the buck. but it just doesn't have the bigtime, long-term potential of the LS3.

metaphorically speaking, its like the mustang has 4.10's that run out real soon and the camaro has 3.08's..........the mustang will jump ahead in the short term but the Camaro has the hardware to really reel it in when you wanna start getting up into some serious power.

It's interesting because the debate doesn't seem to be in a style where its like "which is faster so i can buy that car?" people generally choose a car on some sort of gut feeling (or even brand loyalty) and then worry about bench racing and which is faster. I'm STRONGLY leaning towards the SS because........well it's just got that musclecar charisma and swaggers like a badass in a way that just doesn't seem present in the new mustang. Yea, it's an emotional thing, but at the end of the day, which car do you want to hop in and rip around town in? Are you gonna be sitting at a red light sweating a .2 second ET difference or 1 or 2 mph in the big end? i doubt it.

one thing that does disturb me, however.......is the issue of TRAP SPEEDS. I know i know, its all about ET, but to me the real measure of how much fun a car is is in the trap speed, because that shows how hard the car pulls and for me, a car that pulls like a motherf**er is more important than one that posts good numbers just by getting a great launch.................The mustang seems to have gotten a 118 mph trap speed with BOLT ONS..........but for some reason very few SS's, even those with swapped cams, seem to be getting much higher than 112? is there a reason for this? When i look through the fastest times, there seems to be a cut off (especially with bolt-on cars) that's right around 113 mph......................any thoughts?


EDIT: didn't realize theres no language filter on here

[fazm]

Originally Posted by VetteMaro

It has a 125 shot, check this link:
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...ph-bumper.html

You are right about orangechevy having a cam, i forgot about that sorry. But im pretty sure that the stang has a bit more done to it's suspension than just controls arms, i'll check and get back to you.

And for the record orangechevy's trap speed is about 7 miles hugher than the stang, i know it has a bigger shot of N2O and plus a cam. And it is clear that the stang launches MUCH harder than the camaro, going by it's 1.4' 60 ft ..

Lets keep this rivalry alive! It's what is going to bring us a better camaro

EDIT: i couldn't find the thread about the other suspension mods, but here is a thread where people 'think' (check out PSUCOBRA96's post)that there were other mods involved in that run, i dont know why they aren't very clear about the mods :
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...s-100shot.html

ok so you only exaggerated 25shot and suspension, and the camaros engine work good to know. lol.

still if it holds on a 200shot, i can promise 9s.

still if money is no object, the more displacement, the better

[2SSARMY]

5.0 are certainly becoming more and more impressive in my eyes.

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by VetteMaro

It has a 125 shot, check this link:
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...ph-bumper.html

You are right about orangechevy having a cam, i forgot about that sorry. But im pretty sure that the stang has a bit more done to it's suspension than just controls arms, i'll check and get back to you.

And for the record orangechevy's trap speed is about 7 miles hugher than the stang, i know it has a bigger shot of N2O and plus a cam. And it is clear that the stang launches MUCH harder than the camaro, going by it's 1.4' 60 ft ..

Lets keep this rivalry alive! It's what is going to bring us a better camaro

EDIT: i couldn't find the thread about the other suspension mods, but here is a thread where people 'think' (check out PSUCOBRA96's post)that there were other mods involved in that run, i dont know why they aren't very clear about the mods :
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...s-100shot.html

This is from the 1/4 mile list.

OrangeChevy - 10.28 @ 134.26 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, Skinny's, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)

Based on this Orange Chevy ran 10.28 without a cam. If he was running a cam with his setup, I need to add it to his list.

Update.
I went back and changed his mod list on his 10.28 run to include a cam along with the 200 shot.

[fazm]

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

This is from the 1/4 mile list.

OrangeChevy - 10.28 @ 134.26 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, Skinny's, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)

Based on this Orange Chevy ran 10.28 without a cam. If he was running a cam with his setup, I need to add it to his list.

Update.
I went back and changed his mod list on his 10.28 run to include a cam along with the 200 shot.

glad i can be of help? lol

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by fazm

glad i can be of help? lol

Some how that slipped by me. I had the cam listed with his NA time, but I some how left it out when updating his time after he added the 200 shot.