The 2011+ Mustang Thread - Page 368

Sax1031 · 05-17-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ssump29

I still say screw what the pros are getting, what is the average driver going to get.

I put the average camaro driver with an LS3 at 13.5 to 13.9, average 5.0 driver 13.4-13.8 most of the time these times will be wrost. It's that simple, what can YOU get out of the car not what others who drive for a living can. And let's face it most buyers of these cars are average to way below average when it comes to driving it how its meant to be. Point here is stop the Benchracing.

On average I put the Camaro and GT on equal ground.

Captain Awesome · 05-17-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sax1031

To be expected when compared to an engine with around 76 more cubic inches.

Good thing gearing cures that.

Gearing can be optimized for either engine, so it's not going to give you an advantage in that case.

ViperTomcat · 05-17-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rayhawk

Yeah, it was almost feeling like this was a site about Camaros!

:troll:

Dude..really?

Check the name of the sub-forum. Even us Mopar and Ford boys(and girls) keep our posts, usually, confined to the Camaro vs... and General Automotive+Other Cars discussion forum.

All you ever seem to do is bitch and complain about there being Mustang and Mopar owners on this site, even when we keep our posts in the proper area. If you want to furiously masturbate over your Camaro with others, go get a bunch, find a private garage and do so! The exclusionary bullcrap of "LOL THIS IS A CAMARO SITE LOL GTFO" is getting really freaking old, really fast!

The majority of us are polite and keep our arguments/posts/etc well reasoned and informative. Yes there are bad apples, but there are more than a few bad Camaro owners on this site also, same with Challenger owners with ChallengerTalk and Mustang owners with TheMustangSource. Now..if you dont mind, could we get back to discussing Muscle/Pony cars without a comment form the peanut gallery about how this is a Camaro site?

Danke!

8cd03gro · 05-17-2010, 12:15 PM

The weight difference is how the lack of torque is cured. Besides, nobody races at 3,000 rpm.

lil_chef · 05-17-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid

Ehh, last I checked the 2010 GT's had what, 325 ft. lbs? So it wouldn't be an extra 60 ft-lbs for you. I think it'd be very close for the non track pack '10 gt's

ive been told that the 325 Ft-lbs rating was done using 87-octane. using premium gas nets you about another 10 hp and 10 ft-lb.

in my post i believe i stated it will be close for non 3.73 equipped GT's. the 3.55 equipped GT's should have an advantage as well.

ViperTomcat · 05-17-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Gearing can be optimized for either engine, so it's not going to give you an advantage in that case.

I suspect what he is meaning is that stock for stock, the gearing on the Mustang can make up for the fact that it doesnt produce torque as quickly.

Once again, once the mods start, all bets are off because it becomes a checkbook war.

PrinzII · 05-17-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackenedSS

I dont get why people still point out the fact that the camaro is bigger than the mustang.This has allways been the case since they started in the 60's. CHEVY=BIGGER MORE POWER and FORD=LIGHTER LESS POWER usually a wash stock. JUST DRIVE WHAT FEELS RIGHT!

ViperTomcat · 05-17-2010, 12:20 PM

I think, with this second round of the Muscle Car/Pony Car wars..history is repeating itself. Kind of ironic really, the children of the "veterans" of the first wars are now fighting the second one.

8cd03gro · 05-17-2010, 12:22 PM

I'm just waiting for everyone else to get in on this. The rest of the automotive market can't let chevy and ford run away from the pack like this. I think we'll be seeing some crazy cars in the next few years.

Sax1031 · 05-17-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Gearing can be optimized for either engine, so it's not going to give you an advantage in that case.

No doubt.

For an all out racer, like just drag or road racing, give me a high revving engine and let me gear the hell out of it.

Torque wouldn't make much difference at all after that.

masterofpuppets · 05-17-2010, 12:30 PM

These guys ain't trolls. They keep everything in check and balance out the fan boys. Back off already, seriously.

*GTAHVIT* · 05-17-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sax1031

Not mad at all man.

I post this stuff so the Chevy and the Dodge guys have an idea of what they are up against.

I am VEHEMENTLY against fanboism and ignorance though.

Remember you called ME out.

Remember the url of this site says......

wait for it......

CAMARO!!!!!!!!!

Just sayin.

We don't need constant reminders. Find an existing thread and post your "new" stuff there.

That way I won't accuse you of being the Fanboy I know you aren't.

Cool?

hollywoodGU · 05-17-2010, 12:38 PM

ricer logic lol

Sax1031 · 05-17-2010, 12:39 PM

I was about to be a 4th gen Z28 owner and had some bad personal/family/financial shit go down a few years ago.

I have owned at least one Chevy.

I love anything that is fast. But I grew up racing a 5.0 I loved. So yes I am very excited for the new 5.0s and they are blowing my mind. With the old 302s getting 400+rwhp took very exotic and not streetable shit in na form. Now looks like it can do it with bolt ons.

Very good times for car enthusiasts. Best time in muscle car history.

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8cd03gro Drives: 2005 STi corn fed Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,997	The weight difference is how the lack of torque is cured. Besides, nobody races at 3,000 rpm.

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05-17-2010, 12:22 PM	#5147
8cd03gro Drives: 2005 STi corn fed Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,997	I'm just waiting for everyone else to get in on this. The rest of the automotive market can't let chevy and ford run away from the pack like this. I think we'll be seeing some crazy cars in the next few years.

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05-17-2010, 12:39 PM	#5152
Sax1031 Drives: 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Elgin,SC Posts: 2,707	I was about to be a 4th gen Z28 owner and had some bad personal/family/financial shit go down a few years ago. I have owned at least one Chevy. I love anything that is fast. But I grew up racing a 5.0 I loved. So yes I am very excited for the new 5.0s and they are blowing my mind. With the old 302s getting 400+rwhp took very exotic and not streetable shit in na form. Now looks like it can do it with bolt ons. Very good times for car enthusiasts. Best time in muscle car history.