The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by mrray13

Isn't the GT500 basiclly Ford's tuner Mustang? It's a limited production SVO built car, correct? If so, then comparing it to the ZL575 would be the right comparision. SLP is equilivant to SVO, so it would be apples to apples. At least IMHO.

The 750hp Super Snake would be Ford's tuner Mustang. Think of the GT500 like previous Cobras.

[nashstat]

Originally Posted by Stew

You can get the Brembo brake package on the base GT as wellwhich basically brings it in line with the 1SS in pricing.

$1700 more!

[nashstat]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

And apparently that extra $700 dollars will actually get you superior performance.

And an ugly car!

My point being that the Mustang is not cheaper than the Camaro... simple you just admitted to it!

[Sax1031]

And yes the ECU in the stang has different tables for different fuels.

Take that edmunds dyno test that netted 395rwhp, a ringer I am sure, but they said it took 7 dyno pulls to get a repeatable number. They said every pull the ECU was trying to get as much power out of the 91 octane gas as possible.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by nashstat

And an ugly car!

Looks are subjective. I could pull a MT and call the Camaro ugly myself.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by Unfair

Umm... The 05-10 mustangs were faster than your G8 budd
stock 13 sec cars aren't slow.

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by mrray13

I seriously doubt that gas mileage will stay the same, especially since they show the Mustang averaging 2mpg less then either the Camaro and the Challanger.

Does the Mustang have two octane maps in it's programming? One where it'll detune the car to run the lower octane? If not, then the lower octane in the Mustang won't hurt it as much as the Camaro, which does have two octane maps in it's programming.



Isn't the GT500 basiclly Ford's tuner Mustang? It's a limited production SVO built car, correct? If so, then comparing it to the ZL575 would be the right comparision. SLP is equilivant to SVO, so it would be apples to apples. At least IMHO.

SVO? you mean SVT, and how is SLP equivalent to SVT? Fords building = SVT's building, fords assembly line = SVT's assembly line SVT = FORD lol

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

The 750hp Super Snake would be Ford's tuner Mustang. Think of the GT500 like previous Cobras.

Weren't the previous Cobra's SVO cars? Still tuners, IMO, but I see what you are saying. I think it's still apples to apples to compare the SLP cars to the SVO ones.

Originally Posted by Sax1031

And yes the ECU in the stang has different tables for different fuels.

Take that edmunds dyno test that netted 395rwhp, a ringer I am sure, but they said it took 7 dyno pulls to get a repeatable number. They said every pull the ECU was trying to get as much power out of the 91 octane gas as possible.

That's the first I've heard of that. I didn't pay attention to the Edmund's dyno because of the way they also butchered the GT500 one.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

Looks are subjective. I could pull a MT and call the Camaro ugly myself.

Ah...but the world would disagree with you.

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by Unfair

SVO? you mean SVT, and how is SLP equivalent to SVT? Fords building = SVT's building, fords assembly line = SVT's assemlys line SVT = FORD lol

SVT, SVO, my bad..same thing different smell.

SVT = Ford tuner. SLP=GM tuner, even if it's not in the same building.

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by nashstat

And an ugly car!

My point being that the Mustang is not cheaper than the Camaro... simple you just admitted to it!

err the mustang is actually cheaper than the camaro.

Originally Posted by mrray13

SVT, SVO, my bad..same thing different smell.

SVT = Ford tuner. SLP=GM tuner, even if it's not in the same building.

No you're wrong, stop it

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by mrray13

Weren't the previous Cobra's SVO cars? Still tuners, IMO, but I see what you are saying. I think it's still apples to apples to compare the SLP cars to the SVO ones.





That's the first I've heard of that. I didn't pay attention to the Edmund's dyno because of the way they also butchered the GT500 one.

If the SLP car came with factory GM warranty I might could agree the comparison being apple to apples.

SVO, SVT, etc.. are all parts of Ford. It is their in house performance team. Much the same as the people that would have done the Z06 and ZR1.

SLP is not owned by GM nor are their cars sold as GM vehicles with GMs warranty.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Ah...but the world would disagree with you.

Look at the shit they put up against the camaro.

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by Unfair

SVO? you mean SVT, and how is SLP equivalent to SVT? Fords building = SVT's building, fords assembly line = SVT's assembly line SVT = FORD lol

Chevy use to ship unfinished Camaros to SLP for SS branding and parts. But not anymore. You would think you would know that seeing as you drive one.