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Old 01-20-2017, 08:25 AM   #27
Sunsnare98
 
Drives: 2017 camaro ss
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Originally Posted by zshazz View Post
I haven't heard that at all. The majority of comments speak that the Supercar2 tires needed heat to start sticking but they do a great job after that. And usually they're compared to other <250TW tires. No one expects (nor should expect) a 300TW tire to stick as well as that, so when people sing the praises of the MPSS they aren't saying they outperform significantly softer tires, they're saying they perform exceptionally for a tire that lasts 30k miles.



First off: the current Super Sports do not outhandle the new Goodyear Supercar 3. I'm certain you're misremembering the article that states such, but I'll give you an opportunity to find said article and show it. They do, however, make an excellent tradeoff for daily driver comfort that nearly matches tires like Goodyear Supercar 3 for non-track driving. If you take the MPSS on track and get too much heat on them (which can happen quite quickly if you overdrive them, which will happen often with 455HP to the rear tires), they break down, chunk, and are ruined. Again, it's not a knock on Michelin, they just aren't the tire that does literally everything better than every other tire, which is hardly a standard anyone expects of them.

Secondly, I do not believe the Super Sport would be replaced by a worse tire. The current tires can't match a 220TW tire on a track. But it's just simple tire engineering: tires stick better at the cost of wearing faster. The only way that the Michelin will get within striking distance (or surpass) the Goodyear Supercar 3 tires is if they compromised tire life by going with softer/grippier compounds. You're making the claim that the PS4S tires are going to outperform the Supercar 3s, and the only way it's going to do it is by compromising one of the features everyone likes about the originals: their wonderful balance of performance and longevity.
Your statements are simply not true.

I've had both the mpss and the g2 and i have pushed them both to the limits. The mpss actually has a more progressive break away and is easier to drive at the limits because of this.

My mpss's didn't chunk at all under massive heat ( why would they put these on the z51 c7 corvette which is marketed as track ready if that were the case...same thing with the gt350. And compared to the g2, the traction was the same on the track and the mpss took less heat to stick, has better wear and is far superior in wet conditions.

This isn't a knock against you, but if you don't have real world experience with both tires, I wouldn't jump to conclusions ( or be that guy that references magazines and articles.... The new good year might be better, but if we're comparing the g2, mpss takes win from my experience on a track. I have a set of new good years on the way, so I'll be able to tell you in the spring for sure.

With that being said...with the new Michelin design, I'm pretty sure it will at least match the performance of the new good year.
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