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Originally Posted by AEP11

Its shitty bc it isnt an 11 sec car. It doesnt need launch control with 305 race tires. Last i heard a manual puts more power to the ground and traps higher. What do C6Z's weigh? 3200lbs? Thats a 600lb difference but those cars have been high 10's BONE STOCK with the same engine. 1000lbs=1 sec in the 1/4 roughly right? So at 4200lbs that car should be able to make an 11sec pass right? Whats the prob? Its a half second off of that while being 400lbs lighter. As i said its put down shitty 1/4 time thus far for its power to weight ratio.

I'm not sure why this is difficult for you to understand. Let me say it again.

The Z/28 was not designed, nor is it marketed for the drag strip.

You can try and calculate what you think it should run based on your ricer math or you can look at ACTUAL runs and see that it is exactly where it should be for its weight and power.

Originally Posted by AEP11

What does this have to do with the Hellcat? Nothing. I brought it up bc you said its a no no to bring up z28 1/4 times due to it not being a "drag car". The GTR was not built for the strip period. Its great on a road course and its already been stated by your beloved mags that if it had tires as good as the z28 it would rape it on the playground the Z was designed for. Also last i checked a DCT wasnt designed for the drag strip. Pretty sure 2spd powerglides are popular there. As far as more power. So it puts down 20 more hp yet runs 8mph faster in the 1/4 at the same weight. Man that Z's crazy impressive i tell ya.

The GTR lays down exceptional numbers at the strip because it is AWD, has launch control, a lightning fast, automatically shifting transmission and puts 455hp/420ft-lbs to the ground. Is this difficult for you to grasp?

Originally Posted by AEP11

Not at all but its silly to compare tires from a track built car thats gutted with no ac, speakers, or carpet that comes with basically street leagal slicks that come in at 305.

Silly to compare a track car to a land yacht to begin with, yet you're intent on doing it. When do we get to talk about the Challenger's track performance?

Originally Posted by AEP11

See when I read this it almost made me not even respond at all.

Its a 172ft/sec @ 117mph! The Z28 only reaches 117mph at the finish line. It DOES NOT carry that from the second the light turns green my friend. The race would be a few car lengths at most.

Of course it doesn't carry that speed from the start. Since you seem to be troubled by math, let me help you. When the Z/28 reaches 1320', it is 0.5 seconds ahead of the loser who is traveling at 112mph when it reaches 1320'. The distance between them is 112mph multiplied by 1.466 equals 164.2 feet per second multiplied by 0.5 seconds which is the difference in E.T. and you have 82 feet. The average school bus in the U.S. is approximately 40 feet long. 82 divided by 40 is 2 school bus lengths. This is NOT a drivers race.
http://www.draglist.com/stories/SOD%...SOD-042202.htm
http://www.wallaceracing.com/mov-dist.php

Originally Posted by AEP11

Thats fine with me. Compare all you want. Both are physically able to drive on a road course so in reality its possible. I have zero problems saying when the 392 is outgunned. You can compare them and ill say the 392 has no chance. What i wont say is you cant put a 392 on a road course bc it isnt a "road course" car.

Yet you insist on comparing the Z/28 to the Challenger on a drag strip!?

Originally Posted by AEP11

You forgot the one thing that will make it happen. The 8spd. Dodge is literally advertising the 392 as a low 12sec car. That would mean 12.3 or lower to me. You better believe when owners get their hands on them there will be 11sec bone stock passes from a 485hp 4200lb car with 255 crap street tires. Something the more powerful, lighter z28 with WORLDS better rubber isnt doing.

Here we go with the excuses again. So it needs an automatic transmission to beat a track-oriented Camaro with a manual transmission down a drag strip? What else? Lower tire pressure, after the engine is broken in, downhill, with the wind at its back? Would that help too? Are Dodge fans born desperate or do they become that way over time?

Originally Posted by AEP11

Again put down the mags. I can promise you the vast majority of gear heads would take the GT500 over the ZL1. Outside of this forum of course.

Really? The Camaro outsells the Mustang for 5 straight years. People are choosing the GT500 the "vast majority" of the time? How many GT500's does Ford sell annually? Have you driven the GT500? How about the ZL1?

Originally Posted by AEP11

Forget the ZL1. I promise you the Hell Cat will destroy that car at the strip. Its benchmark is the GT500. We are literally discussing well reported cases of this car running 10sec passes off the trailer. Nearly a full sec quicker than the beast of a car GT500.

And I'll say again it had better be faster than the ZL1 on a drag strip considering it will cost considerably more. The real question is (and you still haven't answered) is will it be the better car? Anyone can drop a bigger engine into a chassis and make it go faster in a straight-line. Can Dodge build the better car and justify the lofty price?

Originally Posted by AEP11

You're green with envy.

Not particularly. I have yet to drive a Challenger I can describe as "dynamic", "responsive", "engaging", or a "drivers car". They really do nothing for me except capture that retro Challenger look.