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Old 06-15-2013, 01:09 PM   #172
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Originally Posted by MEDISIN View Post
The SS is not an Impala now is it. The Charger R/T, SRT8 is still a Charger, and the Charger is a rental car. You see the difference?



Yes, let's look at R/T performance data and then compare it to the GXP which is the most accurate proxy for the SS not the GT.

2011+ Charger's:
R&T: 0-60 in 5.2, 13.7 1/4mile at 104mph, 4410lbs
MotorTrend: 0-60 in 5.3, 13.9 1/4mile at 103.6mph, 4319lbs
Edmunds: 0-60 in 5.4, 13.7 1/4mile at 102.8mph, 4315lbs

This gives us an average of 0-60 in 5.3, 13.8 1/4mile at 103mph, 4348lbs for the R/T. I post the weight to highlight the fact that the 2011+ Charger's also gained over 200lbs with the redesign yet retains its antiquated 5-speed slush-box.

2009 Pontiac G8 GXP:
R&T: 0-60 in 4.7, 13.1 1/4mile at 109mph
C&D: 0-60 in 4.7, 13.3 1/4mile at 109mph
MotorTrend: 0-60 in 4.5, 13.0 1/4mile at 109.6mph

This gives us an average of 0-60 in 4.7, 13.1 1/4mile at 109mph for the GXP.

Let me put these numbers side by side so you can see the difference.
GXP: 0-60 in 4.7, 13.1 1/4mile at 109mph
R/T: 0-60 in 5.3, 13.8 1/4mile at 103mph

That's an average of 6-tenths faster to 60, 7-tenths and 6mph faster in the quarter than 2011+ Charger R/T. That's not close my friend. At the end of the quarter the GXP is seven car lengths ahead and pulling. If the SS numbers end up being similar to the GXP numbers (which everything to date says they will) then the SS will slot between the R/T and SRT8 in both price and performance as I've stated all along.



The black/red interior you trying to pass off as a SuperBee is a full-fledged SRT8 not the stripped-out, cheesy cloth SuperBee. Nice try though. From Dodge's own website:



This is the ONLY interior option. No navigation, no HID headlamps, no sunroof, no 8" screen, no Uconnect, no heated seats, no leather and bee graphics on the dash, and seats. While it may be SRT8 performance, it's certainly not SS amenities/features.




I look forward to it.
That photo was from the same article you posted from so..... fyi you can add the 8.4 touchscreen nav, etc back whick was included in the price I posted which would pretty well bring it a matter of leather vs cloth, and that is NOT a cheap base car style cloth either, it is the same as the Viper uses. As for times, mine were from what people actually run, same with the GXPand SRT. Quickest time for an 09 plus R/T is 13.4, 13.2 for a Mopar 10. 12.8 for an 06 to 09 Charger SRT, 12.3 to 12.4 for the 392 SRT, around a 12.9 for the GXP. Never said the R/T was going to be quicker, just that the SS will be closer to R/T performance for basically full SRT money.
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