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Old 07-16-2011, 12:41 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Stew View Post
The people who are going to race them against the GT500 and ZL1 will mod their cars. ANd you are looking too much into the weightdifference, the Camaro is quite a pig itself, it just doesn't have the extra price, room, or features to show for it and the ZL1 will be even heavier (I would be at LEAST 4100 pounds). ALso a lot of Dynos and times are showing true HP at the crank to be more like 500, automatic equipped Challengers are hitting as quick as 12.4, which BTW isn't but a few 10ths off the GT500 with the stock tires. Unlike the GT500 and ZL1, the C SRT8s are multi mission cars, race em on the weekends, take a family of 5 on a vacation, take it to work everyday, load it out how you want it (in dash hard drive, 19 speaker sound system, special SRT Leather seats, shift paddles, adaptive suspension with multiple settings, etc, etc.
Early dynos for most new performance cars seem to indicate that the engine is under rated. And oddly enough, none of those early runs seem to be for any practical purpose (ie baseline run for soon to be added mods). Its if people strap them down only to see what it puts to the wheel ... and then brag that its 'under rated'.

Thing is, if its rated under the current SAE testing protocols, it is NOT under rated any more (or less) than all the other cars that use that testing procedure, from 4 banger Camry's to 600+ hp sports cars. They all have to be producing within a certain percentage of advertised power in order to use the 'SAE Certified' claim. There is a bit of wiggle room, but not 30+ hp worth (unless perhaps you're at ~900 hp).

Also, tell me why you can't use a GT500 or ZL1 as an everyday car? The GT500 is essentially loaded from the factory (like the SRT8) and I would bet that the ZL1 will be as well. Sure, you can't fit 4 passengers in either of them but if I had to be hauling around that many people I wouldn't even think about getting a coupe. Maybe Challenger owners have never had to be a passenger in the back of a coupe, but in my experience its something that should be avoided if possible. And stuffing 3 people back there? I don't care how big the car is, I can guarantee you that they'll be unhappy unless they're small children. Even then, they probably won't like it.
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My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors......
........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!!
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