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Originally Posted by camaro_burns_all
the Mustangs do weigh less and it will make up the difference there.
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No, it won't and Ford knew that would be the case. The Mustang has almost always trailed the Camaro in horsepower throughout its history, but as we all know, that hasn't seemed to make much of a difference in how well they sell. If a strategy is working, why change it? That would be like Coke changing their formula because Pepsi has more caffiene.
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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome
...and as far as "bang for the buck" goes, the V6 Camaro will be more fun to drive and evoke more of a feeling of quality than the V8 mustang, and since everyone seems to think that sales of the mustang are so good because of the lower price, it seems likely that a lot of mustang GT sales could be robbed by the lower priced V6 Camaro due to the more recent technology in the design at same or lower price.
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Dude, very few, if any, people looking to buy a V8 Mustang is going to be in the market for a V6 Camaro, not matter how much horsepower the V6 Camaro makes. While the 3.6 might make 300 horspower, it only makes 273 lb/ft of torque versus the Mustang GT's 325 lb/ft. That a pretty significant difference and, coupled with the weight difference between the Camaro and the Mustang, the performance gap will likely be much wider than many are stating/wishing for.
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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome
In other words, the base Mustang will still sell to whomever it sells to now. If that's where all the sales of the mustang are coming from, you can KEEP those sales... there's no money in stripper models. V6 Camaro should steal higher level V6 and low-mid level V8 mustang sales. 1SS should take away mid to mid-high level Mustang V8 sales, and 2SS should put a hurt on special Mustang models.
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I bet GM is glad you don't run their company. I don't know if you noticed lately, but GM needs all the sales it can get these days and your're willing to concede a huge market segment to the competition. Brilliant! There is no doubt that the Camaro will take a bite out of Mustang sales across the board. I don't think anyone is even argued that would not be the case, so you're preaching to the choir
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Originally Posted by SoSmoked
Ford keeps putting ancient technology in the mustang and slowly keep raising the price. I feel sorry for anybody excited to buy one with 8 hamsters on spinning wheels to make up that earth crushing 315hp. A new accord coupe can run a 13.8-13.9 1/4mi, with a few bolt-ons would be pooping out new slowstangs.
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So, for the millionth time, help us understand exactly what new "technology" the Camaro bring to the table and that the Mustang lacks. IRS? It's been around for decades. GM still uses leaf springs in the Corvette, how long has that "technology" been around? Does that make the Corvette less of a car because of it?
When I think automotive technology, I think of things like electronic engine management, traction contol, voice-activated entertainment systems, navigation systems, etc. I'd say the Mustang is ahead of the Camaro in those aspects of technology, at least with the initial Camaro offering.
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Originally Posted by SpectorV
When they make a newer mustang with real power and not charge 20k adm's I will get one. The new GT500 looks nice but the prices are still to high for what they are (sticker = good ... adm = no thanks)
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Dude, nobody has been getting those kind of ADM's for a GT500 for almost a year now. You need to shop around because getting into at MRSP is super-easy and most who are buying today are getting it under MRSP. I can promise you that if you upgrade from an '03-'04 Cobra to a GT500, you will never regret it.