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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

To me a gas-powered vehicle is a gas-powered vehicle regardless of what other methods there are to additionally power it. Does gas power it? Then to me, even if wind, rain, snow, electric, etc power it as well, it is still gas-powered. So if these states are saying that the ban of gas-powered vehicles will take place by 2035, then if you put gas in it, it is gas-powered. One report I read mentioned that some states will sell electric-only vehicles (or some words to that effect). I didn't read the article in it's entirety, I just glossed over it until I got bored and figured I read enough of it.

Either way the changes are coming. Most likely all the diehards won't be around when the change happens. Or again, like I mentioned, there will be huge incentives and bonuses to switch over along with the threat of the outlawing of ICE vehicles which will make them a paperweight taking up space. Like I said, if people are offered tax breaks and this and that, I'm betting that all these "diehards" will give in when they or their wives (or husbands) start factoring in retirement funds, college funds for the grandkids, the house needing a new roof, vacations, etc. Yea I'm blabbing on but I'm just pointing out how fickle people are when the tire meets the road.

You're not wrong. You're just over-applying the situation. There's about a dozen states that have or are considering ICE bans. Which means there are 38 states that are not. So what will consumers in those states drive? A lot will drive BEVs. But a lot will also be driving HEV and PHEV. Both of those have ICE. Some companies (GM) may decide to only offer BEV, but some (Ford, Toyota, Stellantis, BMW, Mercedes) will still offer HEV and PHEV.

Of the 12 states that have or are considering ICE bans, what's the likelihood that all 12 will end up with the same outcome? Fairly low in my estimation. Some might actually pass legislation that says no new cars sold with ICE after 2035. Some may extend it out to 2040 or even later. Some might not be comfortable with 100% zero emissions vehicles and find a way to include HEV and PHEV in the equation. We won't know until the specific legislative pieces are actually brought to the table. Remember, the original California ZEV Mandate required BEV as 10% of all new vehicles sold in California by 2003. That ruled morphed several times to the point where California had not achieved the 10% mark until 1st quarter 2021. Only 18 years after the original "mandate".