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Old 10-02-2021, 03:04 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by Martinjlm View Post
Just to be clear, several states have had Executive Orders issued from the Governor's office. The way state and federal government works is the Executive Branch (Governor, President) does not make laws. They can direct the legislature to draft legislation, but the legislation still has to be voted on in the respective legislatures (Congress, state legislatures). So, bottom line, none of the 2035 stuff is enforceable law. Period.

Now, here's the fun part. Car companies are operating AHEAD of where the proposed bans are headed. GM, Ford, Stellantis, VW, BMW, Mercedes, Honda, even McLaren are all positioning to be 100% electrified by 2035. Electrified and electric do not mean the same thing. Sorta like squares and rectangles. All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. All electric vehicles are electrified, but not all electrified vehicles are electric. Hybrids and plug-in hybrids factor into the equation except for GM. So, ICE vehicles will still be around post 2035, no matter what a dozen or so states choose to do. But most if not all will have some form of electrification included. This is closer to BlaqWhole's carburator / fuel injection scenario. If you want an ICE, you can get one, but it is gonna have a hybrid system included. That's where the manufacturers are headed, and they're headed there no matter what various state governments do.
To me a gas-powered vehicle is a gas-powered vehicle regardless of what other methods there are to additionally power it. Does gas power it? Then to me, even if wind, rain, snow, electric, etc power it as well, it is still gas-powered. So if these states are saying that the ban of gas-powered vehicles will take place by 2035, then if you put gas in it, it is gas-powered. One report I read mentioned that some states will sell electric-only vehicles (or some words to that effect). I didn't read the article in it's entirety, I just glossed over it until I got bored and figured I read enough of it.

Either way the changes are coming. Most likely all the diehards won't be around when the change happens. Or again, like I mentioned, there will be huge incentives and bonuses to switch over along with the threat of the outlawing of ICE vehicles which will make them a paperweight taking up space. Like I said, if people are offered tax breaks and this and that, I'm betting that all these "diehards" will give in when they or their wives (or husbands) start factoring in retirement funds, college funds for the grandkids, the house needing a new roof, vacations, etc. Yea I'm blabbing on but I'm just pointing out how fickle people are when the tire meets the road.
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