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wickedpsi · 05-20-2015, 12:04 AM

Hello,
I am finally getting around to installing my ATI damper and 5% pulley and was wondering how those with the A6 are keeping the engine from spinning when removing the crank bolt and torquing it back on? Any suggestions?
Thank you in advance

jayno20 · 05-20-2015, 01:08 AM

I put mine is 6th gear, put on the ebrake, and the engine didn't turn at all.

wickedpsi · 05-20-2015, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jayno20

I put mine is 6th gear, put on the ebrake, and the engine didn't turn at all.

A6 transmission?

jayno20 · 05-20-2015, 02:12 AM

My bad... I read that as M6 for some reason... Ignore me.

Stephen12ZL1 · 05-20-2015, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DrkPhx

There's a specific flywheel locking tool that I use which bolts in place of the starter. Works great and better than jamming a pry bar into the flywheel like some do.

+1

14ZL1M6 · 05-20-2015, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DrkPhx

There's a specific flywheel locking tool that I use which bolts in place of the starter. Works great and better than jamming a pry bar into the flywheel/flexplate like some do.

Who sells this tool....Where can I find it?

Thanks

wickedpsi · 05-20-2015, 09:29 AM

sorry for the dumb questions as this is my first LS. is the starter pretty easily accessible to remove? links to said tool?
any other methods without having to remove the starter?

Stephen12ZL1 · 05-20-2015, 10:04 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LSx-Flywheel...69999841&rt=nc

wickedpsi · 05-20-2015, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DrkPhx

No other method. You will understand better when you realize how much torque is required to install the bolt. I recommend a large breaker bar for added leverage to remove and install the bolt because of the crazy high torque number. A jack handle over a 1/2" breaker bar or ratchet works fine. Access to the starter is easy, but not so much if you have headers.

ordered the tool. thanks Stephen.

this is exactly the info i was looking for.
ive wrenched my whole life and understand the torque involved on crankshaft bolts.
just trying to get my ducks in a row and all the tools i need in hand before doing the install this weekend. didnt want to take it apart and then have to drive around looking for a tool.

big thanks to all!

wickedpsi · 05-20-2015, 07:12 PM

Last question. I've read the fan has to come out. Looking at my engine bay, there looks to be plenty of room without having to remove the fans. Can this be done without removing the fans?

Whos_Drivin · 05-20-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wickedpsi

Last question. I've read the fan has to come out. Looking at my engine bay, there looks to be plenty of room without having to remove the fans. Can this be done without removing the fans?

Yes. I only removed the drip tray above the fans and it went off and back on without an issue.

Stephen12ZL1 · 05-20-2015, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wickedpsi

Last question. I've read the fan has to come out. Looking at my engine bay, there looks to be plenty of room without having to remove the fans. Can this be done without removing the fans?

The fans come out so easily, why fight them. Just unplug the main connector on the passenger side of the fans, unbolt the two 10mm top retaining bolts, and unclip the black plastic snap in the center. Tilt the fans slightly towards the engine and lift the assembly straight up. They are a little frustrating to work around the upper radiator hose so I always remove that too. Now, you have a mile of access to see everything clearly. It can be done with the fans in place, but it will be much easier with them removed.

ZMEnow · 05-20-2015, 07:48 PM

I didnt find the fans anywhere near conflict when removing the OEM damper or installing the ATI. Ditto on the large breaker bar, just go to Home Depot or hardware and have them cut you a 3 inch 4 foot pipe or whatever diameter you need to get over your torque wrench. I also have a 4 1/2 section that I can sleeve over the 3 inch for heavy duty pulls, or just to saving my strength..

jayno20 · 05-20-2015, 07:49 PM

The old one came out and the new one went in VERY easily and I did NOT remove the fans... They are probably not hard to remove, but I didn't even need to remove them. I just used a 3 foot breaker bar to remove and a torque wrench to torque down the new ARP bolt.

05-20-2015, 12:04 AM	#1
wickedpsi Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 237	ATI damper installation help Hello, I am finally getting around to installing my ATI damper and 5% pulley and was wondering how those with the A6 are keeping the engine from spinning when removing the crank bolt and torquing it back on? Any suggestions? Thank you in advance

05-20-2015, 10:04 AM	#8
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05-20-2015, 01:08 AM	#2
jayno20 Go fast, please. Drives: 2019 Corvette ZR1 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,471 View My Garage	I put mine is 6th gear, put on the ebrake, and the engine didn't turn at all.

05-20-2015, 02:12 AM	#4
jayno20 Go fast, please. Drives: 2019 Corvette ZR1 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,471 View My Garage	My bad... I read that as M6 for some reason... Ignore me.

05-20-2015, 09:29 AM	#7
wickedpsi Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 237	sorry for the dumb questions as this is my first LS. is the starter pretty easily accessible to remove? links to said tool? any other methods without having to remove the starter?

05-20-2015, 07:12 PM	#10
wickedpsi Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 237	Last question. I've read the fan has to come out. Looking at my engine bay, there looks to be plenty of room without having to remove the fans. Can this be done without removing the fans?

05-20-2015, 07:48 PM	#13
ZMEnow Drives: ZL1, 2013, tri-coat-red, manual Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,607	I didnt find the fans anywhere near conflict when removing the OEM damper or installing the ATI. Ditto on the large breaker bar, just go to Home Depot or hardware and have them cut you a 3 inch 4 foot pipe or whatever diameter you need to get over your torque wrench. I also have a 4 1/2 section that I can sleeve over the 3 inch for heavy duty pulls, or just to saving my strength..

05-20-2015, 07:49 PM	#14
jayno20 Go fast, please. Drives: 2019 Corvette ZR1 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,471 View My Garage	The old one came out and the new one went in VERY easily and I did NOT remove the fans... They are probably not hard to remove, but I didn't even need to remove them. I just used a 3 foot breaker bar to remove and a torque wrench to torque down the new ARP bolt.