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scv_guy · 10-19-2016, 06:22 PM

Is there any sort of regulator in the tank?

fif_gen_powa · 10-19-2016, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by scv_guy

Is there any sort of regulator in the tank?

Not sure exactly how the stock setup works but I believe the fpcm plays a role. Just add the boost a pump to those pumps if they are only at 12v than it will be a massive difference. I still have my programmable msd bap if you dont have one yet pm me

scv_guy · 10-19-2016, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fif_gen_powa

Not sure exactly how the stock setup works but I believe the fpcm plays a role. Just add the boost a pump to those pumps if they are only at 12v than it will be a massive difference. I still have my programmable msd bap if you dont have one yet pm me

What voltage did you run?

fif_gen_powa · 10-19-2016, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scv_guy

What voltage did you run?

tuner programmed it, went high on voltage (18+) but not sure exactly how high. car made 640whp running full e85 with a zl1 pump and fic 850cc injectors on a dynojet

1KillerSS · 10-23-2016, 06:49 PM

Nit a good idea to do away with the fpcm when you're using pumps designed for that kind of signal. My advice is to get an ADM FPCM or contact Dave Steck and see where he is at with his work. He has a way to change the voltage without buying a new FPCM or sending it off for reprogramming.

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scv_guy · 10-23-2016, 06:55 PM

I'm sticking with PWM control of the fuel pumps, im going to remove the factory FPCM and use a Vaporworx unit in its place. After doing a bit more testing it is clear the OE fpcm will not deliver enough current to the higher volume pumps. This new controller will handle up to 50A.
The parts are due to arrive tomorrow.
I'll update as i go!

CarlC · 10-25-2016, 01:15 AM

SCV, I may need to come see how that all comes together for you ;-)

The controller is quite comfortable at 60A. For those wanting to go Warp 9 there is a 100A version available.

Also, we can control dual and triple TI '267's / 450lph pumps in a returnless configuration. There's a few nasty G8's with triples + VaporWorx returnless fuel systems lurking out there. I've tested, and have in the test mule inventory, a Fore Innovations twin 450 setup that is used for system validation. The Squash system has not been tested so no validation yet. If someone is interested in determining if the VaporWorx controller will work on a Squash setup we can work some kind of deal ;-)

A bit more on the wild side, Josh Kalis' 200mph 1969 Camaro runs a CTS-V primary pump and twin 450's as the secondary. All returnless @ just over 1200RWHP and manifold referenced fuel pressure.

TOYMARO · 03-16-2017, 11:28 AM

hmmm, sorry for bringing back an old thread
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Any update on the dyno after a BAP added??

ZL1 Lingenfelter · 05-04-2017, 08:54 PM

I had a ZL1 and ran out of injector using the DW 950s. Went to FIC 1300.. then ran out of pump. Sold the car- Bought a CTS-V. According to my convo's with DW - these pumps will not work in the ZL1, but apparently fit the SS? But I know there IS an issue with the current draw through the FPCM that could through a code, and be bad on the wiring. If you add the BAP before the FPCM - the FPCM only puts out 15.5V.. Helps reduce the amps to save the wires, and doesnt cause such a big spike. If you have the KB Bap, it kicks up voltage instantly, but the JMS pump has a ramp delay of .75 sec give or take .75 that ramps the voltage up. Good luck with build.

10-23-2016, 06:49 PM	#61
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	DeatschWerks Direct Fuel Pump Kit for e85 Nit a good idea to do away with the fpcm when you're using pumps designed for that kind of signal. My advice is to get an ADM FPCM or contact Dave Steck and see where he is at with his work. He has a way to change the voltage without buying a new FPCM or sending it off for reprogramming. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

10-25-2016, 01:15 AM	#63
CarlC Drives: 1968 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA LA Posts: 29	SCV, I may need to come see how that all comes together for you ;-) The controller is quite comfortable at 60A. For those wanting to go Warp 9 there is a 100A version available. Also, we can control dual and triple TI '267's / 450lph pumps in a returnless configuration. There's a few nasty G8's with triples + VaporWorx returnless fuel systems lurking out there. I've tested, and have in the test mule inventory, a Fore Innovations twin 450 setup that is used for system validation. The Squash system has not been tested so no validation yet. If someone is interested in determining if the VaporWorx controller will work on a Squash setup we can work some kind of deal ;-) A bit more on the wild side, Josh Kalis' 200mph 1969 Camaro runs a CTS-V primary pump and twin 450's as the secondary. All returnless @ just over 1200RWHP and manifold referenced fuel pressure. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/HonorFlightCamaro/?ref=hl Last edited by CarlC; 10-30-2016 at 12:45 AM.

05-04-2017, 08:54 PM	#65
ZL1 Lingenfelter Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Auburn, IN Posts: 152 View My Garage	I had a ZL1 and ran out of injector using the DW 950s. Went to FIC 1300.. then ran out of pump. Sold the car- Bought a CTS-V. According to my convo's with DW - these pumps will not work in the ZL1, but apparently fit the SS? But I know there IS an issue with the current draw through the FPCM that could through a code, and be bad on the wiring. If you add the BAP before the FPCM - the FPCM only puts out 15.5V.. Helps reduce the amps to save the wires, and doesnt cause such a big spike. If you have the KB Bap, it kicks up voltage instantly, but the JMS pump has a ramp delay of .75 sec give or take .75 that ramps the voltage up. Good luck with build. __________________ 2013 Coupe M6

10-19-2016, 06:22 PM	#57
scv_guy Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Valencia Posts: 1,305	Is there any sort of regulator in the tank?

10-23-2016, 06:55 PM	#62
scv_guy Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Valencia Posts: 1,305	I'm sticking with PWM control of the fuel pumps, im going to remove the factory FPCM and use a Vaporworx unit in its place. After doing a bit more testing it is clear the OE fpcm will not deliver enough current to the higher volume pumps. This new controller will handle up to 50A. The parts are due to arrive tomorrow. I'll update as i go!

03-16-2017, 11:28 AM	#64
TOYMARO Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS 2SS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: here Posts: 591	hmmm, sorry for bringing back an old thread . Any update on the dyno after a BAP added??