[TheSpectre]

Originally Posted by Richard0nee

The GT350's are having so much overheating problems is what I'm seeing a lot lately.

One member at mustang 6g mentioned that only the track package 350 will have the right coolers..

Limp mode, overheating are the problems members are facing.

So extensive research is key

For 2017, all GT350s come with the track pack as standard equipment, hence the considerable price hike.

[hotlap]

Price is exaggerated so much. My 2SS has every LPO option other than brakes and the $2k rims. That includes cargo net, footwell lighting, splash gaurds and much more. My MSRP was $49,920 and my price was $46,700. Look at my signature!

The price gap between a 2SS and GT350 is huge. The content and purpose of the two are very different. If you want a great car to drive, buy the 2SS. If you want a car parked in the corner that you hope to minimize the depreciation on, get the GT350.

If you plan on driving/tracking. What engine do you want to own when the warranty is finished?

[2011shelby]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Let's be real, the GT350 at $58k (guessing that's with GG Tax) is equipped like a 1SS is at $37k. I've yet to see a 2SS MSRP at $53k. Maybe a vert with an options.

MSRP on my '17 2SS with A8, NAV, MRC, NPP, and Hyper Blue is $48075. Short of adding LPO wheels (which would be a 2nd set for the car), sunroof, and all the "cosmetic dress up" items in addition to the options I have...is the only time it will be above $50k.

Let's at least be Honest.
GT350 starts at $47795.
And It's nearly impossible to equip both cars identical, BUT even too get close you have to start with a 2SSjust for the Recaro seat option that comes standard.

[Blueclyde]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Nope $48k. Also before you think you need the 6 pots, the braking distance difference between the SS with 4 pots and the GT350 is 2 feet in MT tests. 6 pots are overkill.

I'm not sure I agree with this. Stopping distance is not what the brake option is meant for. It's meant for better performance on a track, which I'm thinking they will certainly provide over the standard SS brakes. Yes, they are pricey but if you've ever been on a track, you'll come to accept it.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by 2011shelby

Let's at least be Honest.
GT350 starts at $47795.
And It's nearly impossible to equip both cars identical, BUT even too get close you have to start with a 2SSjust for the Recaro seat option that comes standard.

Incorrect. The non track ready, 2016 base GT350 track car had an MSRP of $49,920 with destination. This is the level that goes into limp mode following a regular GT on parade laps due to overheating. For 2017, the previously optional $6,500 track package is mandatory

[1295/SS]

Mine had an MSRP of just under $49k. Bought it at $42k even. Search and find the deal you want, they're out there.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Blueclyde

I'm not sure I agree with this. Stopping distance is not what the brake option is meant for. It's meant for better performance on a track, which I'm thinking they will certainly provide over the standard SS brakes. Yes, they are pricey but if you've ever been on a track, you'll come to accept it.

Agreed but the OP does not appear to be one looking for a track car. Otherwise he'd be looking at a 1LE or at least a 1SS instead of a loaded 2SS.

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[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by 1295/SS

Mine had an MSRP of just under $49k. Bought it at $42k even. Search and find the deal you want, they're out there.

is GM offering incentives on the Camaro now? If not there must be some serious profit in them if you can knock $7k off MSRP 6mo after release.

[Snowblind]

Originally Posted by formoutofchaos

I finally got up and close to a shelby * still couldn't test drive it but heard its engine its definitely menacing….. So what exactly are the speed numbers for the shelby vs camaro?

When one gets a fully loaded 2SS you get in the 48K range if you do your homework you can get a shelby for 58K

why would you choose the camaro over the shelby?

https://youtu.be/bSzezLume_c


This 2016 gt350 You Tube video ^^^ sums up all you need to know; Horsepower sells cars but torque wins races. Call me a fan boy all you want but I can't hear that 526hp when it is behind me

[SuperSound]

That's what has been said. Which explains why there really aren't any incentives. GM must not be worried about the sales totals because of the profit built into the 6th gen.

Also we have some forum members who have done a good bit of track time in the cars now. The ones I've read had 4 pots and didn't complain of any issues in their long sessions. So someone really needs to justify spending $3k extra.

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[Richard0nee]

Originally Posted by Snowblind

https://youtu.be/bSzezLume_c


This 2016 gt350 You Tube video ^^^ sums up all you need to know; Horsepower sells cars but torque wins races. Call me a fan boy all you want but I can't hear that 526hp when it is behind me

That's was awful lol! I'm very curious about Ford's HP claims..

GT 435 HP - high 12's and 13'
ECOBOOST 310 HP - Low 14's average
Focus RS 350 HP - high 13's, mid 13's
GT350 526 HP - mid 12's? Low 12's with a good driver??

I know those are just 1/4 mile times rounding it out with a manual and the GT350 is more track focus..

But still.. maybe it's the suspensions and weight? GT500 did well running low to mid 11s

Hmmmmmmm....

[kcpoloman]

Originally Posted by formoutofchaos

If u add dual exhaust 6 piston brembo, mrc, it goes over fifty but yeah the resale value is a big reason on the Shelby for me

No, I've got all that minus the six pistons and my sticker was only 44,900.

[kcpoloman]

Originally Posted by Richard0nee

That's was awful lol! I'm very curious about Ford's HP claims..

GT 435 HP - high 12's and 13'
ECOBOOST 310 HP - Low 14's average
Focus RS 350 HP - high 13's, mid 13's
GT350 526 HP - mid 12's? Low 12's with a good driver??

I know those are just 1/4 mile times rounding it out with a manual and the GT350 is more track focus..

But still.. maybe it's the suspensions and weight? GT500 did well running low to mid 11s

Hmmmmmmm....

That trap speed in the video tells it all. 111mph ain't 500 plus horsepower. And if it is that the weight is killing that cars performance.

[quikag]

I'd take a GT350 personally for even money, but it would have to have the track pack for sure. The Camaro SS is good to go for some track sessions in stock form.