2010 Camaro SS -- NEW closeup photos of front-end!!! -- 7/11/08

[SSmoked]

the car is really looking asom. only one slight problem the big boss apple sauce(my dad) still doesnt like the front grills. and thats what is holding him back from purchesing it. imo i find the car stunning from every view, but in the end its my dad gettin the car not me.
im still keeping the faith but i hope gm has some little tricks under their sleeves with this front grill/head light assembly.

btw does anybody know if the camaro will recive 5k bulbs like in the corvette or will be get the 3.3k bulbs in everyother car? hope we get something like the vette soo when u see those lights u realize ur seeing a high end car

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Please calm down. You have not seen the final product -- and I believe when you see the final product -- IN PERSON -- you just may feel differently.

-- not saying you'll change your mind -- but in my experience over many years -- most of those who 'hate' something usually change their minds:
1...once they see it in person -- or 2....see it for 90 days or so......

Everyone needs to heed the fbodfather here. He knows what he's saying and is backing it with years of business experience.

I hear your complaints as well. It gets under my skin a little to hear complaints about such a great product. I don't think a concept has transitioned so wholly to production as the 5th generation Camaro. Clearly, I could be wrong, not having seen the final product. Regardless, we have seen the evolution of the Camaro to its current state. Very little has changed.

When you're getting your next car, you're going to see a lot of options on TV, the Web, and the road. You're going to be bombarded with these options, and everything will suddenly appeal to you. Since you're at a pony car website, you're more likely to get a Challenger, Camaro, or Mustang. You may have a slight complaint about the Camaro foglights, but can you tell me honestly that you would rather get a Challenger, a car in a totally different style, than stick to your guns over a minor detail? If that detail is so important, I'm sure you can have a professional shop custom build you a front end that matches the concept. Hardcore Camaro fans may seek extreme modifications that will make the Camaro look more like the concept in the aftermarket. I would not be surprised to see available reverse light transplants in the aftermarket, either. All the things you have been concerned would ruin the car will not ruin the car.

As fbodfather basically said, you'll see it on a lot and love it, or you'll keep seeing it for 90 days and love it. I think everyone, fbodfather included, understands that the car will not meet your exact specifications. We would all love to roll around in cars designed specifically for us, but we are fans of a company that mass produces goodness in the form of Chevrolet automobiles. In this case, the most Chevy can give us is what they've already delivered in the preproduction Camaro. So far, we're all very happy with the basics—V6 power, V8 power, hood, B-pillar, reverse lights, spoiler option, reverse mohawk, air inlet, wheels, rear bumper, GMPP options (as presented in GMPP accessories thread). In all, no other car on the market will compare in all of these characteristics with the Chevrolet Camaro in 2010. Sure, Japanese car lovers won't love it like we do, but we'll have our dream pony cars. Those of you that have your complaints make good points on what you think should be improved. I would like certain things a tad different as well, but I refuse to let halos or reverse lights be a deal breaker for me. As this car looks on paper, there is no way to compare anything on the market to my dream Camaro.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Please calm down. You have not seen the final product -- and I believe when you see the final product -- IN PERSON -- you just may feel differently.

-- not saying you'll change your mind -- but in my experience over many years -- most of those who 'hate' something usually change their minds:
1...once they see it in person -- or 2....see it for 90 days or so......

I'm an artist (see avatar for sample of hand drawn colored pencil work) and I know how I am and how my tastes are. My first impressions rarely change.

I'll give it a chance to see it in person and maybe in different colors, but in my mind's eye I can't imagine it looking any better.

That you would encourage me to give it a second chance makes it sound like we're stuck with it, which is depressing.

No offense to those who like it and those who built it. I just think that changing away from the concept shape in this way was a bad idea and it's a safe bet someone could have predicted this would happen.

I can see the meeting: "We have 2 choices. We can make the thing look like the concept, which was very popular, or we can experiment with all kinds of different grills and hope nobody hates it. If we're really lucky we might hit on a grill that even more people love. Should we risk it? In the meantime, everybody brag on how close to the concept the car looks!"

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Everyone needs to heed the fbodfather here. He knows what he's saying and is backing it with years of business experience.

I hear your complaints as well. It gets under my skin a little to hear complaints about such a great product. I don't think a concept has transitioned so wholly to production as the 5th generation Camaro. Clearly, I could be wrong, not having seen the final product. Regardless, we have seen the evolution of the Camaro to its current state. Very little has changed.

It gets under my skin to see people with legitimate passions and preferences regarding something that they have strong feelings about being trivialized because others don't share their same passions.

If they decided to eliminate the V8 or maybe put in some low output tiny V8 I'm sure a lot of people would complain. Maybe to some people changing the entire look of the front end is (in their mind) just as major as emiminating the V8 option?

[camero]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

...I can see the meeting: "We have 2 choices. We can make the thing look like the concept, which was very popular, or we can experiment with all kinds of different grills and hope nobody hates it. If we're really lucky we might hit on a grill that even more people love. Should we risk it? In the meantime, everybody brag on how close to the concept the car looks!"

Dude, get a clue. The base car looks as much like the concept as we could make it. The SS has a more aggressive foglight/airdam area. How many times are you going to post the same complaint anyway? You should read back and see how you sound.

[flaguy]

Originally Posted by Myka

But they didn't because they care about style and enthusiasts.

With all due respect, that is complete bullshit. GM is a company and companies care about profits. GM watched Ford make a killing off the new Mustang which had literally no competition. Thus, let's bring the Camaro back. GM could really give two shits what enthusiasts want, in fact....enthusiasts are probably the last people they are trying to satisfy because that is so hard to do. The Camaro is being marketed to a WIDE array of people. Men, women, black, white, young, old etc. etc. If they targeted enthusiasts they would be leaving 90% of the market out.

The old mighty dollar, that's the only thing they care about. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

[Congoman775]

Captain Awesome id reel it in a few notches... If you dont like something about the car you could always adjust with aftermarket products...

no need to damn the world around you because you dont like something.

and this isnt a personal attack or anything, but your crossing the line from freedom of speach into verbal harrassment

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

It gets under my skin to see people with legitimate passions and preferences regarding something that they have strong feelings about being trivialized because others don't share their same passions.

If they decided to eliminate the V8 or maybe put in some low output tiny V8 I'm sure a lot of people would complain. Maybe to some people changing the entire look of the front end is (in their mind) just as major as emiminating the V8 option?

Don't get me wrong. I don't mean to trivialize anyone. I, too, have things that I would love changed in preproduction. I'm just taking a comparative approach. If the Camaro had a different interior, for example, I would be devastated because I fell in love with the concept interior. However, the Mustang doesn't have the Camaro interior, so that won't help, and neither would buying a Challenger.

I'm just trying to say that we all fell in love with the whole car—some parts more than others for a lot of us. Because of that, we all have different concerns about the car. I'm very confident that there will be a raging aftermarket for the new Camaro, so I would expect many of our concerns to be addressed by the aftermarket if GM doesn't make it the way you want it. I don't think that trivializes anyone. I just think that most concerns are very changeable.

As far as I know, these are the biggest concerns that the aftermarket will fix:

• headlights
• tail lights
• reverse lights (holes can be filled, lights can be transplanted elsewhere)
• grill
• front bumper & fog light placement (body kits will be plentiful)

[pinkcamaro10]

I just cant wait until we get the official pictures..... Is it the end of july yet??

I have loved this car from the very first moment i saw it. I just wonder if they know the rules and regulations of what a car needs to be, why build a concept that has features that wont qualify?

In no way was that a mean statement at all, i dont want to offend anyone, i am just curious.

I still love the car, I will still buy one. I am just crossing my fingers that i will beable to change the lower grill if the production one isnt better. I mean the whole car is beautiful, and then i look at that and just totally get turned off. I find myself looking at new pictures and taking my hand and covering up the bottom grill.

[fad1]

WoW I am feeling so confident about this car. Absolutely Amazing. Just cant wait till the 22nd

[chadrcr]

Originally Posted by flaguy

With all due respect, that is complete bullshit. GM is a company and companies care about profits. GM watched Ford make a killing off the new Mustang which had literally no competition. Thus, let's bring the Camaro back. GM could really give two shits what enthusiasts want, in fact....enthusiasts are probably the last people they are trying to satisfy because that is so hard to do. The Camaro is being marketed to a WIDE array of people. Men, women, black, white, young, old etc. etc. If they targeted enthusiasts they would be leaving 90% of the market out.

The old mighty dollar, that's the only thing they care about. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

GM is not a charity, here to donate cars to enthusiasts... you are right$$$
They do care about enthusuasts, because enthusiasts are like free advertising and probably buy cars more often than someone who JUST wants to go from point A to B.
Keep your $#!+ civil.

[chadrcr]

Originally Posted by Congoman775

Captain Awesome id reel it in a few notches... If you dont like something about the car you could always adjust with aftermarket products...

no need to damn the world around you because you dont like something.

and this isnt a personal attack or anything, but your crossing the line from freedom of speach into verbal harrassment

And it is not like they put an Edsel front end on it.....

[6Gearss]

Don't like it. Another reason why I will never buy the first run from GM. They probably hear us, but its too damn late again, so our changes will come in the second run. And that's the SS model. C'mon.

I think someone is playing a huge joke on the world, and they're going to drop a hammer on us with something better than what we've been allowed to see. If GM is as secret as 'the Army of Virginia', then this is dead on. My brand pride doesn't allow me to believe that the General will allow this car to come out like this. We'll see.

[rlshky]

Originally Posted by camero

Dude, get a clue. The base car looks as much like the concept as we could make it. The SS has a more aggressive foglight/airdam area. How many times are you going to post the same complaint anyway? You should read back and see how you sound.

We all knew it (the V8&SS) had to differentiate itself somehow. Unfortunately you cant please everyone and some will like the changes and some wont. If something wasn't different about it then even more people would be complaining and saying at this point, "why does the SS look just like the V6?!?!"

Sort of lose lose no matter what they did.