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LTRS777 · 02-24-2015, 10:57 AM

There are a lot of things a vehicle needs that do not come stock on the vehicle... Why is that still being used as an argument?!? Its like saying DEF fluid came stock on tractor trailer trucks and is therefore better/needed for the trucks to be reliable and increase longevity. NO it isn't, it is just required to pass the crazy emissions requirements. The multiple catalysts and fluid setup can actual cause major issues if not properly maintained. Just because an engineer from GM didn't put a catch can on the car, does not mean it shouldn't have one. There's lots of things on the cars that aren't necessary and lots of things missing that a car could use. /endrant catch can arrives tomorrow

Caswell239 · 02-25-2015, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex Motorsports

There is definitely a lot of oil getting through. Are running anything on the clean side?

What do you suggest

Gee · 02-25-2015, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Caswell239

What do you suggest

They wont say it because they do good business. But a lot of RX products are not good. That being said, maybe try a different catch can. Mine plus a clean side catches a ton and I have nothing in my IM when I check it every oil change.

Caswell239 · 02-25-2015, 11:38 PM

Don't get what is ment by running something on the clean side?

Gee · 02-26-2015, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Caswell239

Don't get what is ment by running something on the clean side?

You currently have a "dirty side" catch can. That can is catching the oil before it goes into the IM. "Clean side" is the drivers side PCV system where air enters the crankcase. Placing a catch can here, would be very important, especially for boosted engines.

Caswell239 · 02-26-2015, 11:26 AM

Oooh ok. Just did a quick google search. I see it is a little can that goes in place of the oil cap. But couldn't find any info on where the hose goes tho. Would it be to the elbow in my intake?

Gee · 02-26-2015, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Caswell239

Oooh ok. Just did a quick google search. I see it is a little can that goes in place of the oil cap. But couldn't find any info on where the hose goes tho. Would it be to the elbow in my intake?

Yes. The 1le style clean air oil separator kit, comes with everything you'll need. And the directions are very helpful.

Ragnar · 02-26-2015, 04:08 PM

Here is both!

Caswell239 · 02-26-2015, 04:15 PM

I see. So the thought is that a lot of it is coming through that hose rather then the catch can. I'll pop that elbow off tomorrow and see if there's any residue in there. If that elbow is dry then it has to be that crap can.

erikpilon · 06-21-2015, 03:18 PM

Hi everyone.

So. I just stumbled on this, "catch cans" huh?

Well, I just bought a 2012 RS 2 months ago, and has 75,000 km on it.

What needs to be cleaned (and how?) before I instal a catch can? I can imagine there is so much oil build-up somewhere?

AITI · 06-22-2015, 09:36 AM

If it is a V6, then it is a direct injection engine and you will need to have a manual intake valve cleaning service performed (NOT a Seafoam or BG type...will shorten engine life!).

If a V8 prior to 2016, then most all should work it;s way out over time and the deposits in the ringlands should clean as well somewhat.

meSSohappy · 07-25-2015, 11:35 AM

My elite can has collected over 50 ml (1.7 oz) so far and I still have 40% left before my next oil change.

Elite Engineering · 07-27-2015, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by meSSohappy

My elite can has collected over 50 ml (1.7 oz) so far and I still have 40% left before my next oil change.

It sounds like it's doing it's job. Much better in the bottom of the Catch Can than in your intake!

Pushrod Pete · 07-27-2015, 09:51 PM

I am VERY happy with my elite engineering catch can. not sure of the amount it has collected after a couple months, but there was definitely some stuff in there last time I checked.

02-24-2015, 10:57 AM	#99
LTRS777 Drives: 2014 Saleen 620 White Label #14-011 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: AL Posts: 610	There are a lot of things a vehicle needs that do not come stock on the vehicle... Why is that still being used as an argument?!? Its like saying DEF fluid came stock on tractor trailer trucks and is therefore better/needed for the trucks to be reliable and increase longevity. NO it isn't, it is just required to pass the crazy emissions requirements. The multiple catalysts and fluid setup can actual cause major issues if not properly maintained. Just because an engineer from GM didn't put a catch can on the car, does not mean it shouldn't have one. There's lots of things on the cars that aren't necessary and lots of things missing that a car could use. /endrant catch can arrives tomorrow __________________ '14 Saleen 620 White Label #14-011 ADM LSA Stage 1 Kit, ADM 2.75 Pulley, DEKA 63lb injectors, ZL1 Fuel Pump, JLT 123MM Big Mouth intake, TSP 2" LTHs, BW TB, 2.5" Catback, Scott Culbert/GEN3PERF tuned! 573WHP/557WTQ @ 10psi. Build Thread Here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390708 Last edited by LTRS777; 02-24-2015 at 01:19 PM.

02-26-2015, 04:08 PM	#106
Ragnar Destroyed by flooding Drives: Wife's car Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 4,673	Here is both! Attached Images

07-25-2015, 11:35 AM	#110
meSSohappy Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 1,372	My elite can has collected over 50 ml (1.7 oz) so far and I still have 40% left before my next oil change. __________________ DAVENPORT STAGE 2 PLUS - 2" ARH ceramic coated headers - 3" ARH catless exhaust - Stock NPP mufflers - Kong ported SC - Katech 103 ported TB - Rotofab 5" Big gulp CAI - 22.5% lower pulley - ATI Harmonic balancer - Cordes SC expansion tank - MSD hi temp ignition wires - Koolsox spark plug insulators - custom tunes - 660hp/725tq pump - 713hp/763tq race

02-25-2015, 11:38 PM	#102
Caswell239 Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 1,431	Don't get what is ment by running something on the clean side?

02-26-2015, 11:26 AM	#104
Caswell239 Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 1,431	Oooh ok. Just did a quick google search. I see it is a little can that goes in place of the oil cap. But couldn't find any info on where the hose goes tho. Would it be to the elbow in my intake?

02-26-2015, 04:15 PM	#107
Caswell239 Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 1,431	I see. So the thought is that a lot of it is coming through that hose rather then the catch can. I'll pop that elbow off tomorrow and see if there's any residue in there. If that elbow is dry then it has to be that crap can.

06-21-2015, 03:18 PM	#108
erikpilon Drives: Black 2012 RS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Dubai Posts: 18	Hi everyone. So. I just stumbled on this, "catch cans" huh? Well, I just bought a 2012 RS 2 months ago, and has 75,000 km on it. What needs to be cleaned (and how?) before I instal a catch can? I can imagine there is so much oil build-up somewhere?

06-22-2015, 09:36 AM	#109
AITI Account Suspended Drives: 2015 LFX Auto Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US of A Posts: 280	If it is a V6, then it is a direct injection engine and you will need to have a manual intake valve cleaning service performed (NOT a Seafoam or BG type...will shorten engine life!). If a V8 prior to 2016, then most all should work it;s way out over time and the deposits in the ringlands should clean as well somewhat.

07-27-2015, 09:51 PM	#112
Pushrod Pete Drives: Camaro 1LE Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 489	I am VERY happy with my elite engineering catch can. not sure of the amount it has collected after a couple months, but there was definitely some stuff in there last time I checked.