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Dimitrim · 02-04-2014, 03:13 PM

I have a 2SS, every time I open the door the windrow drops down an inch and when I close the door it goes back up to the closed position.

Why?

jewel25 · 02-04-2014, 03:14 PM

It's designed that way.

Dimitrim · 02-04-2014, 03:17 PM

Why is it designed that way?

CamaroJim56 · 02-04-2014, 03:19 PM

so it will close properly, allows the air inside to escape and not be an immediate vacuum.

strych9 · 02-04-2014, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimitrim

Why is it designed that way?

If you look at the upper part of the window from outside the car, you'll see that it tucks up under the moulding to create a flush closure at the top of the window. It's done to help control wind noise, I believe.

Therefore, in order to clear the moulding when you open the door, the window has to drop slightly.

Aequitas & Veritas · 02-04-2014, 03:20 PM

If it wasn't it would have to have a metal frame around the entire door to connect to the body. This way (less weight, looks cooler, maybe better aero) the window has to pop down to clear the frame, and it has to pop up to seal the window so water doesn't get in.

My opinion doors look better without a metal frame along the edge.

jewel25 · 02-04-2014, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroJim56

so it will close properly, allows the air inside to escape and not be an immediate vacuum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by strych9

If you look at the upper part of the window from outside the car, you'll see that it tucks up under the moulding to create a flush closure at the top of the window. It's done to help control wind noise, I believe.

Therefore, in order to clear the moulding when you open the door, the window has to drop slightly.

Thanks guys, you beat me too it.

Its is nice feature to have on a frameless door. I had a Neon that was frameless and the darn thing leaked all the time.

ZED SLED · 02-04-2014, 03:23 PM

These cars don't have a window frame. The window has to be indexed to allow it to fit into door frame properly. It's made tighter than the old cars that just let the window press against a rubber seal.

Dimitrim · 02-04-2014, 03:25 PM

Thank you everyone

Arodr395 · 02-04-2014, 03:29 PM

Most coupes do this, my Audi S5 does it also.

Norm Peterson · 02-04-2014, 03:30 PM

What I thought - it's part of ensuring a better water seal. Look at the contouring of the weatherstrip along the top of the window. Red boldface mine.

My 2008 Mustang has this same feature as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 Owner Manual pg 2-14

Window Indexing

This automatically lowers the window a small amount when the door is opened. When the door is closed, the window will raise fully. If the vehicle loses power, you may need to reprogram the windows. Follow the procedure under "Programming the Power Windows" later in this Section. If a message about the windows appears in the Driver Information Center (DIC), see Window Messages on page 5‑43.

If the window freezes to the door, this feature may not work. To close a door with a frozen window, push the top of the window inward while closing the door so the top of the window goes under the roof seal.

Norm

gajagfan · 02-04-2014, 03:59 PM

For what its worth, the Gen 4 Camaros and Firebirds did not have this feature, but as we remember, were still a frameless door. Those of you that had one of these or still do know that at higher speeds the window would actually pull away from the moulding and make it very loud in the car. I really like this feature.

PalmerGA · 02-04-2014, 04:08 PM

It does that so your girlfriend/wife doesn't have to slam the crap out of their door to close it.

02-04-2014, 03:13 PM	#1
Dimitrim Dimitri Drives: 68 GTO 455 Ram Air; 2014 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Novato, California Posts: 602 View My Garage	Windows automaticaly down and up I have a 2SS, every time I open the door the windrow drops down an inch and when I close the door it goes back up to the closed position. Why?

02-04-2014, 03:14 PM	#2
jewel25 Mother of PWA Babies Drives: 2011 RJT 2LT/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Central Pennsylvania Posts: 37,110 View My Garage	It's designed that way. __________________ Jewel & PMC's Build Thread

02-04-2014, 03:19 PM	#4
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02-04-2014, 03:20 PM	#6
Aequitas & Veritas Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT RS, 2009 GTR Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,559 View My Garage	If it wasn't it would have to have a metal frame around the entire door to connect to the body. This way (less weight, looks cooler, maybe better aero) the window has to pop down to clear the frame, and it has to pop up to seal the window so water doesn't get in. My opinion doors look better without a metal frame along the edge. __________________ Build thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152335 Photos: www.flickr.com/bradbeer GTR Instagram: @NoCrustGTR

02-04-2014, 03:23 PM	#8
ZED SLED Drives: 2017 Mosaic Bk ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South of Raleigh, NC Posts: 9,486 View My Garage	These cars don't have a window frame. The window has to be indexed to allow it to fit into door frame properly. It's made tighter than the old cars that just let the window press against a rubber seal. __________________

02-04-2014, 03:17 PM	#3
Dimitrim Dimitri Drives: 68 GTO 455 Ram Air; 2014 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Novato, California Posts: 602 View My Garage	Why is it designed that way?

02-04-2014, 03:25 PM	#9
Dimitrim Dimitri Drives: 68 GTO 455 Ram Air; 2014 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Novato, California Posts: 602 View My Garage	Thank you everyone

02-04-2014, 03:29 PM	#10
Arodr395 Drives: 2014 Black Camaro 2SS/RS 1LE Join Date: May 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 406	Most coupes do this, my Audi S5 does it also.

02-04-2014, 03:59 PM	#12
gajagfan Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Black - Std Exhaust Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Brunswick, GA Posts: 3,622 View My Garage	For what its worth, the Gen 4 Camaros and Firebirds did not have this feature, but as we remember, were still a frameless door. Those of you that had one of these or still do know that at higher speeds the window would actually pull away from the moulding and make it very loud in the car. I really like this feature.

02-04-2014, 04:08 PM	#13
PalmerGA Drives: 2013 SIM 1SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southwest GA Posts: 8,755 View My Garage	It does that so your girlfriend/wife doesn't have to slam the crap out of their door to close it. __________________ 2013 1SS/RS Coupe L99, Stainless Power Works LT Headers, SCT X4 Custom Tune from RDP, CAI Inc. Air Intake w/ Apex Scoop, VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body, Solo Axle-Back Exhaust w/ J-pipes, Apex Catch Can, Husky Splash Guards, Heritage Grille, 3D Carbon Rear Spoiler, Oracle Chrome Turn Signal Bulbs, GM Reverse Light Trim Billets, Gorilla Black Locking Lugs, Emblem Pros Retro SS Badges/Custom Retro SS Kickplates/Under-hood Bowtie, 35% window Tint, Nitto Motivo Tires (6-8-18)