02-19-2019, 03:14 PM | #1 |
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Fueling Question
I am considering buying a FORE triple pump (yea I know overkill)
I have ID 1050x Several questions 1.Has anyone staged the pumps after their tune ? 2. With the kit will it include all the lines and wires needed to run this pump ? 3. Would I need to upgrade my injectors to at least ID 1300 to run E85 smoothly ? 4. Would a dual be enough for 1k hp (even though I am not going to hit those numbers anytime soon.) 5. Would a stronger battery is needed to run these pumps ? ( The pump that I am going to most likely go with is F90000274 x2 or x3) Thanks in advance Oh yes the power adders are a procharger D1x and a Holley sniper efi Intake manifold
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TSP Stage 2 Boosted Cam 227/235 at 114 LSA Fore Innovation Triple pump staged (Walbro 342 primary and 2x Walbro 450 secondaries) Procharger D1x with a 3.85 pulley ID1050x Injectors Flex Fuel Sensor Monster LT1 Twin Disk Clutch Holley Sniper Efi Intake Manifold NW 103mm Boosted TB 747rwhp at 12psi on E85 |
02-19-2019, 05:25 PM | #2 |
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Dual 450 fore is more than enough for ur setup
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02-20-2019, 04:25 PM | #3 |
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I wished I would have gone triple, now I have to modify . I dont think its overkill at all, better to go in once and do it right the first time, then you will be prepared if you upgrade anything else.
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02-20-2019, 05:18 PM | #4 |
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if your goal is 1000rwhp, you will need to up the injectors. your are going overkill on the pumps, you should up the injectors too.
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02-20-2019, 06:42 PM | #5 |
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Duel pumps is good for 1100whp e85 and 1300whp pump is what fore told me a couple of days ago whenni asked about my fuel setup for my maggie, and told me 8an was good
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02-21-2019, 07:03 AM | #6 |
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I have a squash dual 450's i'm taking out of my car now. it will be forsale soon.
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02-21-2019, 09:05 AM | #7 |
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That is what I was thinking should I want to get a bigger block (like a forged 416) or go with a bigger procharger I only wanted to do the fueling system once. I know that if I wanted more power I would need to change the injectors eventually.
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TSP Stage 2 Boosted Cam 227/235 at 114 LSA Fore Innovation Triple pump staged (Walbro 342 primary and 2x Walbro 450 secondaries) Procharger D1x with a 3.85 pulley ID1050x Injectors Flex Fuel Sensor Monster LT1 Twin Disk Clutch Holley Sniper Efi Intake Manifold NW 103mm Boosted TB 747rwhp at 12psi on E85 |
02-21-2019, 10:03 AM | #8 |
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Out with the twin fuel (LPE), in with the triple Fore...
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Have you been in a 1k+whp car before? What do you plan to do with the car I never see you out racing or anything why go all out on the build? 800hp is plenty for a fun street car and will be 10x easier and cheaper to maintain than a 1k+ monster that's going to break everything if you actually want to use the power
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02-21-2019, 10:29 AM | #11 | |
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For right now I am not going to have the car at 1K it will probably go for around 600 to 700hp street car. It is cheaper to buy smaller pulleys than buying bigger fuel pumps.The reason I ask for fueling info is because I don't want to buy the same thing multiple times. I might even sell the injectors because I am might go even bigger. All of this question is do it right once. I've planned on the performance stage of the car for over a year. When it comes to maintenance I know that is part of the territory. And for racing I want to try when all of this is installed. I have things planned and phases in my mind as well as in paper. Doing research watching video and making sure that all of it is done correctly. Thanks for the concern in regards to the build. BTW your build is awesome the video of your last launch is kinda squirrely and that happened with your rears deflated so it can stick ?
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TSP Stage 2 Boosted Cam 227/235 at 114 LSA Fore Innovation Triple pump staged (Walbro 342 primary and 2x Walbro 450 secondaries) Procharger D1x with a 3.85 pulley ID1050x Injectors Flex Fuel Sensor Monster LT1 Twin Disk Clutch Holley Sniper Efi Intake Manifold NW 103mm Boosted TB 747rwhp at 12psi on E85 |
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If you want my opinion on the build on our cars it's tried and true with a boosted ls3 on e85 keep it simple is best Any e85 dual fuel pump systems 1000+cc injectors a good twin disc clutch Camshaft suited for power adder and valve springs Than just add boost and a safe tune Car will last forever under 700hp and a very long time even at 800. That is perfect for a street car imo.
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02-21-2019, 11:01 AM | #13 |
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I recommend going as big as you can afford for the power absolute maximum HP you would ever consider possible (not current goal, but future).
I bought a ADM twin pump back in the day when that was the biggest thing available, but ran into a wall when I up'ed my power and switched over to E. I have since switched to the AGP triple (modified Fore System) and ID1700's. The goal was to never have to think about fueling again. To answer your other question, you can stage your multiple fuel pumps. I know with the AGP setup that uses Hobb switches you would just use switches that activate at different PSI for the other pumps. Not sure how it would work with the Fore controller, but I am sure Fore could answer that.
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All good advice here! But one day he will get to 800 and want more. LOL!
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Pat G Custom Turbo CamMotion Camshaft | AGP TT BB Garrett 62/65's | AGP/Fore Triple Pumps | ID1700X Injectors | Alky Control Twin Nozzle Meth | Custom 3" Exhaust | 3.27 gear set w/ Tru Trac | McLeod Twin RXT | Barton Short Throw Shifter | 6th Gen ZL1 Wheels | BMR 1.4" drop springs | Pfadt rear trailing arms & tie rods | Installed by Me & Tuned by Pat G Last edited by mrimpala02; 02-21-2019 at 03:18 PM. |
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