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Old 03-06-2018, 03:17 PM   #15
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don't waste your money on a stock frame turbo. Buy the zzp zfr bolt on turbo.
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Except with the ZFR, you're going to run into fuel issues much quicker. Can you use anything more then E15 with the ZFR? I know the ZFR's with E85 would be an absolute killer!
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Old 03-06-2018, 08:42 PM   #16
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Except with the ZFR, you're going to run into fuel issues much quicker. Can you use anything more then E15 with the ZFR? I know the ZFR's with E85 would be an absolute killer!
zfr will run out of fuel on 93. We can use meth to help a little bit, but we need a hpfp asap! or you can pull the motor and install cams with the larger fuel lobe
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:40 AM   #17
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zfr will run out of fuel on 93. We can use meth to help a little bit, but we need a hpfp asap! or you can pull the motor and install cams with the larger fuel lobe
I was under the impression that the fuel lobes only gained around 15% headroom, and the aftermarket HPFP gained north of 25%?
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Old 04-05-2018, 09:56 AM   #18
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Okay so maybe there just wasn't enough coffee this morning. but it seems like the turbo bay stage 2 upgrade is literally just a billet 20t compressor wheel with extended tips and the tdo4HL 9 blade turbine.
is that really a sizeable upgrade?
obviously the ZFR is a huge upgrade.
but lets say all I wanted was 325-350whp with stock internals, would an upgraded turbine and wheel be worth the improved efficiency? while also keeping a super punchy small frame turbo?
I'm pretty sure there are guys running stocks turbos at 325whp but my impression was that the turbo is well out of its efficiency range.
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Old 04-06-2018, 05:05 PM   #19
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Okay so maybe there just wasn't enough coffee this morning. but it seems like the turbo bay stage 2 upgrade is literally just a billet 20t compressor wheel with extended tips and the tdo4HL 9 blade turbine.
is that really a sizeable upgrade?
obviously the ZFR is a huge upgrade.
but lets say all I wanted was 325-350whp with stock internals, would an upgraded turbine and wheel be worth the improved efficiency? while also keeping a super punchy small frame turbo?
I'm pretty sure there are guys running stocks turbos at 325whp but my impression was that the turbo is well out of its efficiency range.

I like where this guy is going with this... anyone with a stock frame turbo with upgraded wheels? Opinion?

I don't want to move my powerband up further into the rpm range. I just want to increase the power in the range that it already makes power...the car has some damn good low/mid torque that proves useful every day.
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Old 04-06-2018, 05:31 PM   #20
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I like where this guy is going with this... anyone with a stock frame turbo with upgraded wheels? Opinion?

I don't want to move my powerband up further into the rpm range. I just want to increase the power in the range that it already makes power...the car has some damn good low/mid torque that proves useful every day.
I have a buddy that isn't on the forums but he has a stage 2 turbo, he dynoed 343 who on a e85/93 mix
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Old 04-06-2018, 05:56 PM   #21
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I like where this guy is going with this... anyone with a stock frame turbo with upgraded wheels? Opinion?

I don't want to move my powerband up further into the rpm range. I just want to increase the power in the range that it already makes power...the car has some damn good low/mid torque that proves useful every day.
Theoretically, larger and lighter turbine and compressor wheels should actually spool faster due to less inertia and greater capability of capturing energy from the exhaust. Ported housings can amplify this further. I see nothing wrong with an upgraded stock turbo as an alternative to a full turbo swap.
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Old 07-03-2018, 06:46 PM   #22
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I can't provide much info, but I do have a turbo bay turbo here that I will probably be installing some time this spring/early summer, will report back at that time.

@Jason - Did you ever end up dropping this in? Results/thoughts?

To others still curious about the upgrade, I purchased one and am currently awaiting delivery - I'll update after the swap is complete and I am re-tuned. My build journal will get an overhaul then as well, but it has all of my current upgrades right now anyhow.

Unsure if I will actually dyno pre/post - will primarily use my 0-60 figure under dry conditions and general feel of the vehicle as comparison (honestly my obsession is just getting that 0-60 down to low 4's or better, and it is currently at 4.8).

Though I will likely do a post-tuning dyno session since this will mark the end of my upgrades (unless I am not pleased with this turbo and I decide to spring for a ZFR when it comes back). Also, even better than dyno'ing, I intend to take the car to the track a little later into the Florida summer/early winter on a nice day and will definitely post slips from that.

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Old 07-03-2018, 10:18 PM   #23
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My Turbo Bay turbo is getting installed this month with my snow performance stage 2 meth kit.. I'm pretty much 100% sure I will be going with Danny Tech for the tune. I'm sending out my TCM next week to be unlocked from HP tuners.. If I could figure out how to start a Build Journal I would list the laundry load of parts I have on my Camaro.. Oh and Redline Motorsports down in lauderdale is a joke for the LTG plat form just to let everyone know.. For SS owners different story...
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Old 07-03-2018, 10:39 PM   #24
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My Turbo Bay turbo is getting installed this month with my snow performance stage 2 meth kit.. I'm pretty much 100% sure I will be going with Danny Tech for the tune. I'm sending out my TCM next week to be unlocked from HP tuners.. If I could figure out how to start a Build Journal I would list the laundry load of parts I have on my Camaro.. Oh and Redline Motorsports down in lauderdale is a joke for the LTG plat form just to let everyone know.. For SS owners different story...
Good to hear bro, u got an Instagram?
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Old 07-03-2018, 11:49 PM   #25
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My Turbo Bay turbo is getting installed this month with my snow performance stage 2 meth kit.. I'm pretty much 100% sure I will be going with Danny Tech for the tune. I'm sending out my TCM next week to be unlocked from HP tuners.. If I could figure out how to start a Build Journal I would list the laundry load of parts I have on my Camaro.. Oh and Redline Motorsports down in lauderdale is a joke for the LTG plat form just to let everyone know.. For SS owners different story...

What was your lead time out of curiosity? Did you send in your turbo to be rebuilt or go with the refundable core charge?
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Old 07-04-2018, 11:56 AM   #26
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I bought a used turbo off New Egg which I know sounds weird but I got it for under $200.00 which I gave to Matt at Turbo Bay myself.. I've had my turbo for just over a year but I used to work on the road and had no time to put parts on until now.. but it took awhile to get done I wanna say 10 weeks but I was in zero rush and he's in town.. but the picture that is on his website is my turbo when it was finished with the forge waste gate.. I'm currently on the fence on buying a factory recirculation valve from a new Honda civic 2.0T to see if the bolt alinement works if so I will return it and get an aftermarket blow off valve to replace that POS plastic factory one from chevy.. The Forge waste gate was originally for a ford focus ST but Matt from turbo bay modify it to work with the turbo. just to let you know.
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Old 07-04-2018, 11:58 AM   #27
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yep I got an Instagram now because of Danytech.. Thank you again by the way
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:22 PM   #28
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Jason - Did you ever end up dropping this in? Results

Still haven’t, currently building a new forged bottom end engine, saving it for that. Sorry. I might just throw a different compressor wheel on the stock turbo and try it just for kicks on the stock motor



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