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The Z/28 would have sold well if they offered both a version with minimal options, and the loaded up ZL1-like luxuries. The base would have then sold in few numbers, but it's not like it cost GM more to offer the stripper, it costs less, as should the car. Team Camaro is taking note though, hence the LT1 version of the 6th gen now available with less content than the previous base SS.
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08-31-2020, 03:23 PM | #7226 |
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It actually did though. From what I understand, because they offered the Z/28 without air conditioning, the car had to be crash test certified all over again. The R&D costs for the car were very high. Combine that with the cost of the LS7, the suspension and the carbon ceramic brakes and that's why it had such a large price tag.
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08-31-2020, 03:38 PM | #7228 | |
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08-31-2020, 04:10 PM | #7230 | |
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Also, I understand the cost of the LS7, suspension - that wasn't the stripper options I was referring, since they are additional options not shared by any other 5th gen. Which lead me to explaining the LT1 6th gen. So I agree, the Z/28 cost GM more, but they only offered the stripped version with limited options like speakers and A/C. Hence, why I explained they could have sold more by offering the LS7, carbon brakes, Multimatic Spool shocks, etc on both the luxury equipped Z/28 and still offer a stripper version that SHOULD cost less. GM isn't alone in attempting to make money by offering "limited production" run stripper cars, the enthusiast community has seen Ford and Porsche all do it as well when offering the same powertrain in a car with less options, yet charge more due to keep it rare. That's where my point stems from.
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09-03-2020, 03:29 PM | #7232 |
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GM and Honda sign Memo of Understanding to work together on vehicles and technologies for North America.
https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/.../0903-mou.html My understanding from talking to members of the press who have had the opportunity to ask questions is
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Call me crazy, I will like KC20C engine in Non-V8 1LE.
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09-04-2020, 10:53 AM | #7236 |
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$1500 MSRP reduction for Silverado/Sierra 3.0L Duramax.
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With the current wave of GM styling and poor decisions I'm having '80s flashbacks. Maybe GM will bring back the Citation as a hybrid, 4-wheel drive.
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