Removal of Factory BANG BANG Tune?

Fast Ken · 04-27-2022, 01:03 PM

Is it possible to get rid of the Crackling Firecrackers on deceleration without voiding the warranty and/or causing a smog test failure?

I talked to a local, experienced and knowledgeable independent GM tuner for advise. His recommendation was either leave it alone or buy another computer to program.

Any other ideas?

arpad_m · 04-27-2022, 04:48 PM

This is a tune change gm made back in 2019, I don't think there is a way to retain the warranty if you want to revert to the "old" (2016-2018) minimum spark and DFCO settings.

If you're interested nevertheless, below is a list of threads where this was discussed in detail, although usually by people with pre-refresh cars who do actually want those pops and crackles. The first (highlighted) thread shows what needs to be changed in the tune: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=563618

Chrome383Z · 04-27-2022, 08:28 PM

I don’t like them either. When I had the car tuned for FBO it actually reduced then quite a bit even though I didn’t think to ask for that. Still there but not as bad. I think it’s sounds stupid.

ZPirate · 04-28-2022, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrome383Z

I don’t like them either. When I had the car tuned for FBO it actually reduced then quite a bit even though I didn’t think to ask for that. Still there but not as bad. I think it’s sounds stupid.

Personally, I like the BANG BANG! LOL!

pzoom · 04-28-2022, 10:53 AM

Coming from a BMW, i welcome the pops and bangs. Beats having fake exhaust sounds coming through the speakers.

Have you tried changing your exhaust mode? Seems like the pops are barely audible with the valves closed.

Crushin_LT1 · 04-28-2022, 12:16 PM

In touring mode the crackling exhaust seems almost gone.

Geese1 · 04-28-2022, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ZPirate

Personally, I like the BANG BANG! LOL!

One of the things I'm looking forward to most. I guess it could get tiring if you're constantly daily driving the car, but this is going to be a weekend, fun toy for me, so the crackles and pops will just add to the experience!

ZPirate · 04-28-2022, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushin_LT1

In touring mode the crackling exhaust seems almost gone.

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Originally Posted by Geese1

One of the things I'm looking forward to most. I guess it could get tiring if you're constantly daily driving the car, but this is going to be a weekend, fun toy for me, so the crackles and pops will just add to the experience!

I agree. If you don't want the cracks and pops switch to touring mode. Another way to avoid them is to stay on the throttle.

2SS Capt · 04-28-2022, 04:27 PM

It really depends on how you drive the car, if you do high RPM decels you're gonna get a lot more crackling, if you get the RPMs down (shift into a higher gear) it pretty much won't do it...

Fast Ken · 04-28-2022, 11:22 PM

So it's down to "how to minimize" the BANG BANG/Crackling Firecrackers sounds. The best thing that I am hearing (no pun intended) is to keep it in Tour mode and don't let off on the gas. That's good for the Bonneville Salt Flats or the Texas Mile. I think shifting into 6 gear at about 175 MPH would be a great adrenalin and testosterone rush.

Also for me the Rev Match does play an important role in my driving style. It was developed for the Track. Once I started using it there then I quickly got over the feeling like it was cheating. It minimizes the time changing gears and improves the driving experience.

Thanks for all of your comments and references. It's a shame there is no easy fix. )-: So change my driving style on the street or live with the BANG BANG.

SATINSTEEL1LE · 04-28-2022, 11:27 PM

Man I had an 18 ZL1 and now a 21 ZL1 and I LOVE the bang bang tune that the new ones have. It sounds sick honestly in my opinion. I wanted it so bad on the 18 but there was no way aside from a tune, to get it.

For you, you will need an aftermarket tune in order to turn all that off. And it can be done. Burble tunes as they are called, are all the rage now. And tuners can add that to your power tune or not if you want.

ALMN · 04-30-2022, 06:17 PM

My wife hates the pops and crackles but i love it. It sounds amazing especially with a manual transmission. My daughter thinks its funny and we call it “pop corn ready” every time the exhaust starts making the noise. Overall the NPP exhaust sounds amazing. I m done with the aftermarket exhausts for a while!

arpad_m · 04-30-2022, 06:36 PM

For the record, I am happy with the way my JRE tune behaves on this 2018. I can easily make the exhaust pop once or twice, "signaling" that there is a bit of power under the hood, but it won't keep "corn popping" for 4-5 seconds, which to me sounds somewhat juvenile... to each their own though, if someone loves it, no judgment here

CreeperRS · 04-30-2022, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushin_LT1

In touring mode the crackling exhaust seems almost gone.

04-27-2022, 01:03 PM	#1
Fast Ken Drives: 2020 1SS 1LE M6 Riverside Bl Metall Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Sacramento Area, CA Posts: 38	Removal of Factory BANG BANG Tune? Is it possible to get rid of the Crackling Firecrackers on deceleration without voiding the warranty and/or causing a smog test failure? I talked to a local, experienced and knowledgeable independent GM tuner for advise. His recommendation was either leave it alone or buy another computer to program. Any other ideas?

04-27-2022, 04:48 PM	#2
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 11,616 View My Garage	This is a tune change gm made back in 2019, I don't think there is a way to retain the warranty if you want to revert to the "old" (2016-2018) minimum spark and DFCO settings. If you're interested nevertheless, below is a list of threads where this was discussed in detail, although usually by people with pre-refresh cars who do actually want those pops and crackles. The first (highlighted) thread shows what needs to be changed in the tune: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=563618 Attached Images __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

04-27-2022, 08:28 PM	#3
Chrome383Z Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: McCordsville, Indiana Posts: 621	I don’t like them either. When I had the car tuned for FBO it actually reduced then quite a bit even though I didn’t think to ask for that. Still there but not as bad. I think it’s sounds stupid. __________________ 2019 Shock 2SS A10. 2650@10psi/LPE HPFP/XDI+30/LT4 LPFP+JMS/Soler 95mm/Rotofab, E65, CSP 2” Headers/GESI GenII Cats. MM Wild/GM SG3 suspension/1LE Brakes, Velgen VF5 Wheels/GY SC3. JRE Tuned.

04-28-2022, 12:16 PM	#6
Crushin_LT1 Drives: 2021 LT1 6spd Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 767	In touring mode the crackling exhaust seems almost gone. __________________ Current: 2021 LT1 Camaro, 6spd, Crush, Corsa NPP, GMPP CAI, Soler Performance Throttle controller Previous: 1997 V6 Camaro, 5spd, Black

04-28-2022, 04:27 PM	#9
2SS Capt 2020 Shadow Gray 2SS Drives: 2020 2SS - A10, NPP, MRC, CAI Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,029	It really depends on how you drive the car, if you do high RPM decels you're gonna get a lot more crackling, if you get the RPMs down (shift into a higher gear) it pretty much won't do it... __________________ 2020 SGM 2SS - A10, NPP, MRC, Red Calipers, Black Camaro Fender Badge, Footwell Lighting *Added after delivery:* - GMP CAI, GMP Black Strut Tower Brace, MRR017 1LE Wheels, SS Armrest, Black Fuel Door, Stainless Sport Pedals, SS Wheel Caps, Black Lugs/Locks, GM Splash Guards, DD Smoked LED Markers, Smoked Rear Reflectors, Mishimoto Catch Can, Xpel PPF - Full Front, SunTek 35% Tint, CeramicPro coating, RST Stainless Brake Lines, Castrol SRF, MSD Super Conductor Wires *Left: My "fun" ride. Right: My "work" ride: a Gulfstream G600. One's top speed is 180 Mph, the other, 620 Mph...*

04-28-2022, 10:53 AM	#5
pzoom Drives: 2021 SS 1LE SHOCK Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Austin Posts: 124	Coming from a BMW, i welcome the pops and bangs. Beats having fake exhaust sounds coming through the speakers. Have you tried changing your exhaust mode? Seems like the pops are barely audible with the valves closed.

04-28-2022, 11:22 PM	#10
Fast Ken Drives: 2020 1SS 1LE M6 Riverside Bl Metall Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Sacramento Area, CA Posts: 38	So it's down to "how to minimize" the BANG BANG/Crackling Firecrackers sounds. The best thing that I am hearing (no pun intended) is to keep it in Tour mode and don't let off on the gas. That's good for the Bonneville Salt Flats or the Texas Mile. I think shifting into 6 gear at about 175 MPH would be a great adrenalin and testosterone rush. Also for me the Rev Match does play an important role in my driving style. It was developed for the Track. Once I started using it there then I quickly got over the feeling like it was cheating. It minimizes the time changing gears and improves the driving experience. Thanks for all of your comments and references. It's a shame there is no easy fix. )-: So change my driving style on the street or live with the BANG BANG.

04-28-2022, 11:27 PM	#11
SATINSTEEL1LE Account Suspended Drives: 21 ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: South East Posts: 662	Man I had an 18 ZL1 and now a 21 ZL1 and I LOVE the bang bang tune that the new ones have. It sounds sick honestly in my opinion. I wanted it so bad on the 18 but there was no way aside from a tune, to get it. For you, you will need an aftermarket tune in order to turn all that off. And it can be done. Burble tunes as they are called, are all the rage now. And tuners can add that to your power tune or not if you want.

04-30-2022, 06:17 PM	#12
ALMN Drives: 2SS 1LE M6, Palisade Calligraphy Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Minnesota Posts: 181	My wife hates the pops and crackles but i love it. It sounds amazing especially with a manual transmission. My daughter thinks its funny and we call it “pop corn ready” every time the exhaust starts making the noise. Overall the NPP exhaust sounds amazing. I m done with the aftermarket exhausts for a while!

04-30-2022, 06:36 PM	#13
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 11,616 View My Garage	For the record, I am happy with the way my JRE tune behaves on this 2018. I can easily make the exhaust pop once or twice, "signaling" that there is a bit of power under the hood, but it won't keep "corn popping" for 4-5 seconds, which to me sounds somewhat juvenile... to each their own though, if someone loves it, no judgment here __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

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