2018 Mustang Performance Pack 2 "Tremor" Details Released

[Gunsmokez]

how fast is the new gt pp2 compared to 1le off the line? Let's be real, most of the matches are gonna be on the street or at a light or highway pull. So, the need to have the extra coolers and such is not that important. Only the the guy who tracks it to enjoy for himself.

No one is gonna say, hey ill race you at the race track tomorrow and here is my number ! be there or else lol.

[NASTY99Z28]

This will be an 11 sec car.

[Chris V]

Originally Posted by Gunsmokez

how fast is the new gt pp2 compared to 1le off the line? Let's be real, most of the matches are gonna be on the street or at a light or highway pull. So, the need to have the extra coolers and such is not that important. Only the the guy who tracks it to enjoy for himself.

No one is gonna say, hey ill race you at the race track tomorrow and here is my number ! be there or else lol.

Street racing and the people who do it are dumb.

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

This will be an 11 sec car.

Lol

[FNxR3DNECK]

Originally Posted by Chris V

Street racing and the people who do it are dumb.

Agreed... and where it matters (aka on a road course) the 1LE will definitely be faster that the PP2, but even if it's really close the stang will start to suffer heat issues long before the 1LE.

[mjk3888]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

This will be an 11 sec car.

Nope can't get the Auto on the Level 2 Perf Pack.

[S2K+1LE]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

No, in the owner's manual, Ford recommends adding aftermarket coolers if you want to track it.

I had a 2017 GT with PP before I got my 1LE.

The floppy chassis, softly sprung, overly grabby braked, and constantly overheating Ford was pure and utter garbage in comparison to the Camaro. I know, I know... there's a rivalry, people will get upset, whatever... I've actually owned both and I can tell you for sure the rear diff WILL overheat in 6 laps or less at your local road course, and you can add a cooler to get to 8-9 laps if you want then add an electronic fan to that to get to 10 but you won't get your 20 lap sessions in your GTPP no matter how hard you try. It will also suck shifting your MT82 dump truck gearbox the whole time, but that's another story altogether.

Ford was saying early on they'd offer a cooler for the TORSEN cars, then they never did... this was Ford's realization that their additional cooler WOULD NOT resolve the issues so they just didn't offer it because at that point they would have to take responsibility.

Also I should mention that whenever you get the GT nice and warm it will fill the entire vehicle with the stench of uncatalyzed exhaust (we went trough this, it's leaking at the manifold before the cats and all the save-a-ho's on the mustang forums somehow couldn't believe this even though it's also happening on the Explorer...).

Ford was horrible to work with, they are unresponsive and really don't care about people who give them $40K+ on a car they special ordered that was constantly screwed up and never lived up to what they advertised.

ON the other hand, I could not be happier with my 1LE... I hope buyers get the message and stop buying that Garbage Mustang... it's just not good, the chassis is so weak that the rear view mirror vibrates on rough pavement much less over bumps... you can't turn out of your neighborhood without the diff binding and causing wheel hop on the inside tire (seriously, this is beyond annoying...) the gearbox is the equivalent of a wet noodle shifting through burnt vomit... the brakes are so grabby that if you sneeze the car will slam your face into the steering wheel (which is covered in the worst fake "leather" you've ever felt, not such a minor complaint on something you're forced to touch during every interaction with the car)..

So then Ford is releasing a "competitor" to the 1LE that doesn't have a torque vectoring differential or performance traction management or two piece rotors or standard Recaro seats... but it has Cup 2 tires and a new splitter.

But hey, the trunk has a larger opening so...

F that turd, and F Ford while we're at it since they are shit at supporting their customers.

[Cgocifer]

^^^^So, how do you really feel? Lmfao!

"...the gearbox is the equivalent of a wet noodle shifting through burnt vomit..."

Hahahahahaha

[Bad Anvil Garage]

Put them both on a track together for 24hrs. Let the best car win! (Probably would be the 1LE)

[Cgocifer]

Gotta love bench racing... lol

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

This will be an 11 sec car.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Cgocifer

^^^^So, how do you really feel? Lmfao!

"...the gearbox is the equivalent of a wet noodle shifting through burnt vomit..."

Hahahahahaha

It is, I had an '11 GT with the MT-82, it was a total piece of crap.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Cgocifer

Also folks, keep in mind that Ford is claiming sub 4 second times to 60 with the 10 speed auto. Not sure if the PP2 is available with the auto, but if I remember correctly, it doesn't. So, the car that may be able to beat the 1LE is a regular GT PP1 w/ 10 speed auto. On a road course though, win = Camaro.

Just manuals on PP cars I read.

Also, if you want to talk auto to auto, the A8 SS can run a 3.9 0-60 too...as tested by Car and Driver. I mean heck, Motor Trend got a 4.0 out of our car. A tenth or so 0-60 doesn't mean anything with all the the variables. But even with that being said, I don't see a GT PP2 hitting a 4.0 like ours, I am thinking more like 4.2. Most previous GT PP1 cars were around 4.4/4.5 or so.

[DrkPhx]

I have a friend that takes his auto 15 GT to BIR and he's never had an over heating issue.