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Old 01-14-2023, 11:22 AM   #1
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Question Preferred Street S/C Kit

Hi all. I'm looking for people's input on what SC kit is most preferred for daily driver street use? I don't plan on doing any mods outside of the kit minus maybe custom tuning. I'd also prefer a direct bolt on with no customization as I'll be installing the kit myself.

I drive a 2023 2SS 6spd manual

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Old 01-14-2023, 12:16 PM   #2
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Hi all. I'm looking for people's input on what SC kit is most preferred for daily driver street use? I don't plan on doing any mods outside of the kit minus maybe custom tuning. I'd also prefer a direct bolt on with no customization as I'll be installing the kit myself.

I drive a 2023 2SS 6spd manual

Thanks for the input
i think people are going to say magnuson or whipple are pretty bolt only without taking the front bumper off the car as well. i would also say some people would recommend buying used zl1 whipple if you are not going to out there. seems a people are selling them recently as they upgrade to the larger after market ones. you might be able to snag one for cheap.
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Old 01-14-2023, 12:35 PM   #3
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Really depends on how much money you are looking to spend. These days, the LT4 blower conversion for the LT1 is the most economical blower option. You can find a used blower for about $1,500 and the blower conversion kit is about $3,000. Should be able to manage a complete LT4 conversion kit under $5,000 total.
From there, it gets pricy, entry level procharger kit is $7K, ECS kit is $6,500, whipple is $8K, magnuson is $8K, Edelbrock is $8K and so on.
They will all work fine for street use, your budget and blower type preference are what you need to decide.
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Old 01-14-2023, 02:43 PM   #4
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Prefer new vrs. Used. Good point on if I have to take the front bumper off, I'm sure that's a PITA.

Type of blower isn't much a dp for me.. reliability and ease of installation is top 2. Money isn't much of a factor as I'm starting to $$ to the side as a fund, but also will not buy the most expensive just because
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Old 01-14-2023, 05:27 PM   #5
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The bumper has to come off, because you will probably install an intercooler that comes as part of the blower kit. The good news is it's a relatively easy job, lots of bolts but conceptually simple.

Look up installation instructions from supercharger vendors (Magnuson, Whipple, Edelbrock) and you'll be able to judge the complexity of the installation.
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Old 01-14-2023, 09:27 PM   #6
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Prefer new vrs. Used. Good point on if I have to take the front bumper off, I'm sure that's a PITA.

Type of blower isn't much a dp for me.. reliability and ease of installation is top 2. Money isn't much of a factor as I'm starting to $$ to the side as a fund, but also will not buy the most expensive just because
I've removed my front fascia so many times that I can have it on the ground in 15 minutes. It is not at all difficult. The most difficult part of a blower installation is removing the balancer.
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Old 01-15-2023, 07:43 AM   #7
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I've removed my front fascia so many times that I can have it on the ground in 15 minutes. It is not at all difficult. The most difficult part of a blower installation is removing the balancer.

Thats a fair call out. I'm surprised there isn't a specific preference from anyone on a brand. I personally was pleased with the procharger kit I installed on my F150... I hated changing the oil. That alone may deter me from purchasing another PC kit haha.
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Old 01-15-2023, 08:33 AM   #8
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Thats a fair call out. I'm surprised there isn't a specific preference from anyone on a brand. I personally was pleased with the procharger kit I installed on my F150... I hated changing the oil. That alone may deter me from purchasing another PC kit haha.
You probably won't find a specific preference on blower. Each kit offers their advantages and disadvantages. The guys who bought a top mount blower will recommend that. The guys who bought a centrifugal blower will recommend that. I went with the ECS kit, the advantage of that kit is that the balancer does not need to be removed for installation. The disadvantage is that it is a low boost kit, with the base kit self contained head unit, the blower is done at about 12 lbs on the stock cam and redline. Opting for the oil fed head unit might let you get 15 lbs out of the kit if the belt does not start to slip. Either head unit is capable of destroying a stock LT1 engine. Only reason I bought this kit was because of how incredibly cheap it was offered on black friday 2021. If I was looking for a blower kit today, it would definitely be a LT4 to LT1 blower conversion. Everything else has become more expensive than I am willing to spend. For the $7K-$8K+ they want for new blower kits these days, I would rather do a heads & cam FBO build.
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Yeah, I only listed PD superchargers, which was mildly myopic indeed, as Procharger kits are a very valid option as well.

The reason I'm not a fan of Procharger and turbo kits is that I don't like the strong torque climbs they can produce in the midrange that can lead to unexpected loss of traction mid-pull, whereas with a PD you struggle for traction at launch, but once the tires hook, you can stay floored and the rear won't just let go on you. Safer for the street where OP will want to use the setup.
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Old 01-15-2023, 12:33 PM   #10
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Yeah, I only listed PD superchargers, which was mildly myopic indeed, as Procharger kits are a very valid option as well.

The reason I'm not a fan of Procharger and turbo kits is that I don't like the strong torque climbs they can produce in the midrange that can lead to unexpected loss of traction mid-pull, whereas with a PD you struggle for traction at launch, but once the tires hook, you can stay floored and the rear won't just let go on you. Safer for the street where OP will want to use the setup.
And as a procharger owner myself I would say the exact opposite is true. as speed builds its harder to break traction vs at lower speeds. Of course depending on how much power ur putting down. Procharger keeps pulling putting u back in your seat some I said some pd tend to give a feeling of laying over on top. I personally think for the street procharger type is hard to beat for fun and drivability.

Of course like others its what I have and am very happy with the power curve. It makes my helcat owner nephew want one lol. And I would not want the helcat it seems to come on real strong then bla.
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And as a procharger owner myself I would say the exact opposite is true. as speed builds its harder to break traction vs at lower speeds. Of course depending on how much power ur putting down. Procharger keeps pulling putting u back in your seat some I said some pd tend to give a feeling of laying over on top. I personally think for the street procharger type is hard to beat for fun and drivability.

Of course like others its what I have and am very happy with the power curve. It makes my helcat owner nephew want one lol. And I would not want the helcat it seems to come on real strong then bla.
Well, to each their own I hear what you're saying, but mine pulls real good all the way to 6600-6700 rpm and only starts "toppling over" near 7000, but by that time shifts will have happened in each gear. And maybe I'm too cautious, it's just that my torque doesn't change much across the rpm range whereas yours is probably climbing steadily from 2k to 5-6k.

That said, much of this is subjective and I'm sure your car (at a similar power level) is awesome as well.
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Old 01-15-2023, 05:48 PM   #12
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I guess what I'm trying to avoid this time around when buying a blower kit is knowing there's a better one out there. (Simplicity, power, reliability) I may of been a bit bias but when I learned more about Whipple for the coyote engines, I knew I should of done that kit over the PC kit. I was still very happy with the power output from the PC kit, but the hose from the TB was a bitch and the SC oil drain & fill process blows.
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I guess what I'm trying to avoid this time around when buying a blower kit is knowing there's a better one out there. (Simplicity, power, reliability) I may of been a bit bias but when I learned more about Whipple for the coyote engines, I knew I should of done that kit over the PC kit. I was still very happy with the power output from the PC kit, but the hose from the TB was a bitch and the SC oil drain & fill process blows.
It really is your call, I can all but guarantee you will be happy and set with the LT4 blower conversion But if you want to build a motor for high boost, a 2650, 3.0 whipple or f1a-94 would probably be the way to go. Different strokes for different folks, etc.
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Old 01-15-2023, 06:04 PM   #14
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I don't plan on doing any performance mods outside of a blower. I will have to read up on the conversion, but my uneducated and uninformed opinion is go with a kit for the ease of knowing everything comes with it
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