[jonholloway500]

I have been looking for a boost in power for my 2017 2SS, I was wondering if anyone had any advice for a good boost in power (it's my daily, so I wanna be able to drive it on the street, but still have fun) but also cost-efficient. What is y'all's advice on this?

[Vaska]

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[BLACK21SS]

Originally Posted by Vaska

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Why so much trolling by you today? If you dislike it here so much, you can always sign out and leave.

[gtfoxy]

There’s pros & cons to each, of course, so it’s mostly subjective.

Roots/Whipple are pretty straightforward. Excellent torque curves. Relatively easy install.

Centrifugals are a bit more complex & take up more room in the bay.

Turbos are more complicated/ time consuming to install, but offer a lot of advantages over belt driven.

[BlaqWhole]

If you want a quick, easy, relatively simple setup then most likely the PD blowers (Whipple, Edelbrock, Magnuson, etc) are the best bet. They are all pretty easy to install, easy to tune, make great DD power, and they are not too expensive. You do not need to go crazy with these setups. You'll easily get 550+ to the wheels and have no issues.

Centri blowers might be a little cheaper. They typically run much cooler IATs and due to the way they deliver power, you'll have a very streetable car with some crazy punch on the top end. They also are easy to install and very simple to tune.

Turbos are neither simple nor easy. And they cost quite a bit. Yea yea "but I can get a turbo setup for $4500 and then self install it"...let me know how that works out for ya. Once you start adding on upgraded parts and this and that the price will much higher. Installs are a pain in the ass. And the tuning is not as simple. I would stay away from this unless you know what you're getting yourself into and have done all your homework on them. This would be more for advance builders and modders who are on built blocks and such.

I think your best bet is to figure out how much you wanna spend and go there. Centris might be the best way to go. if you ask me.

[jonholloway500]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

If you want a quick, easy, relatively simple setup then most likely the PD blowers (Whipple, Edelbrock, Magnuson, etc) are the best bet. They are all pretty easy to install, easy to tune, make great DD power, and they are not too expensive. You do not need to go crazy with these setups. You'll easily get 550+ to the wheels and have no issues.

Centri blowers might be a little cheaper. They typically run much cooler IATs and due to the way they deliver power, you'll have a very streetable car with some crazy punch on the top end. They also are easy to install and very simple to tune.

Turbos are neither simple nor easy. And they cost quite a bit. Yea yea "but I can get a turbo setup for $4500 and then self install it"...let me know how that works out for ya. Once you start adding on upgraded parts and this and that the price will much higher. Installs are a pain in the ass. And the tuning is not as simple. I would stay away from this unless you know what you're getting yourself into and have done all your homework on them. This would be more for advance builders and modders who are on built blocks and such.

I think your best bet is to figure out how much you wanna spend and go there. Centris might be the best way to go. if you ask me.

Thank you so much! This helps a ton

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FWIW, I have a Procharger P1X running about 8 psi. Very streetable but hang on when it hits 3500+ rpms.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by jonholloway500

I have been looking for a boost in power for my 2017 2SS, I was wondering if anyone had any advice for a good boost in power (it's my daily, so I wanna be able to drive it on the street, but still have fun) but also cost-efficient. What is y'all's advice on this?

Send your blower to Kong or jokerz to get ported ($1300), install a 103MM throttle body ($650), put a 10% lower pulley ($500) and a Roto-fab air intake ($450) on it and get it tuned ($850/1000).

[jonholloway500]

Originally Posted by JSH

Send your blower to Kong or jokerz to get ported ($1300), install a 103MM throttle body ($650), put a 10% lower pulley ($500) and a Roto-fab air intake ($450) on it and get it tuned ($850/1000).

I’m sorry, I’m really new to all this. Could you explain a little more? I’m a tad bit confused...


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[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by JSH

Send your blower to Kong or jokerz to get ported ($1300), install a 103MM throttle body ($650), put a 10% lower pulley ($500) and a Roto-fab air intake ($450) on it and get it tuned ($850/1000).

He has a SS, not a ZL1. And that would do nothing but make his IATs soar sky high and waste money in the process.

Originally Posted by jonholloway500

I’m sorry, I’m really new to all this. Could you explain a little more? I’m a tad bit confused...


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Ignore that. That was info for the ZL1 guys since our cars have a blower in it. But not many of us bother with the stock blower anyway because it is way too small and will have high IATs. Most of us who want big gains and an efficient setup just swap it out for a bigger blower.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by BLACK21SS

Why so much trolling by you today? If you dislike it here so much, you can always sign out and leave.

...today? He's a resident troll

Originally Posted by jonholloway500

I have been looking for a boost in power for my 2017 2SS, I was wondering if anyone had any advice for a good boost in power (it's my daily, so I wanna be able to drive it on the street, but still have fun) but also cost-efficient. What is y'all's advice on this?

Listen to Blaq, he made some very good points. Since I'm not an expert myself either, I'll try to add some color in very simple terms, and will happily take corrections from the real pros.

A twin turbo setup such as the Hellion kit is the best and most powerful, but also the most complex, expensive and (from what I hear) the most risk and failure prone on the Camaro.

A positive displacement (PD) supercharger (such as Whipple, Magnuson or Edelbrock) is not unlike replacing your 6.2 liter naturally aspirated engine with a 8-9-10 liter engine, torque and horsepower curves are shifted up almost perfectly, except for the lowest and highest parts of the rpm range. If you don't go crazy with these, they are extremely stable and the safest solution in my opinion. I have one of these, a Magnuson 2300 kit tuned to 7.5 psi of boost, which is safe for the stock LT1 engine and yields ZL1 power, give or take 10-15 hp.

A centrifugal supercharger (such as a Procharger kit) is similar to a turbo in that it gradually "develops" more and more torque as engine rpm increases, up to a point of course, so it can give you a similar "kick" feel in the middle of the rev range. I personally didn't choose this route for a major and a minor reason: one, I don't want the car to break loose once it hooked already because of a large "torque jump", and if it's tuned "safely", low end torque would probably be unimpressive; and two, very-very subjectively speaking, to me they look like some nerf turbo kit dumped into the engine bay.

All three are viable routes, I wouldn't recommend a twin turbo setup for just street driving because of how costly and finicky they seem to be, the choice between the other two is a matter of preference.

In all honesty, the only cost effective approach is to leave the car stock, but then the bug has probably already bitten you, so...

[JSH]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

He has a SS, not a ZL1. And that would do nothing but make his IATs soar sky high and waste money in the process.

A ported blower does not result in unmanageable IAT nor does a 10% pulley.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Ignore that. That was info for the ZL1 guys since our cars have a blower in it. But not many of us bother with the stock blower anyway because it is way too small and will have high IATs. Most of us who want big gains and an efficient setup just swap it out for a bigger blower.

You say "swap it out" as if it's akin to an oil change when it's actually a costly piece of work. I suggested a ported blower because I understand him to be saying he has a limited budget.

[gtfoxy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

If you want a quick, easy, relatively simple setup then most likely the PD blowers (Whipple, Edelbrock, Magnuson, etc) are the best bet. They are all pretty easy to install, easy to tune, make great DD power, and they are not too expensive. You do not need to go crazy with these setups. You'll easily get 550+ to the wheels and have no issues.

Centri blowers might be a little cheaper. They typically run much cooler IATs and due to the way they deliver power, you'll have a very streetable car with some crazy punch on the top end. They also are easy to install and very simple to tune.

Turbos are neither simple nor easy. And they cost quite a bit. Yea yea "but I can get a turbo setup for $4500 and then self install it"...let me know how that works out for ya. Once you start adding on upgraded parts and this and that the price will much higher. Installs are a pain in the ass. And the tuning is not as simple. I would stay away from this unless you know what you're getting yourself into and have done all your homework on them. This would be more for advance builders and modders who are on built blocks and such.

I think your best bet is to figure out how much you wanna spend and go there. Centris might be the best way to go. if you ask me.

How many turbo systems have you personally built & tuned?

Be specific.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by JSH

A ported blower does not result in unmanageable IAT nor does a 10% pulley.

I never said it was. I said they will be sky high and it is a waste of money. Is it manageable? Sure. Will it still be high? Yup. Is it better to have a more efficient setup that can make much more power on pump gas alone without spinning the hell out of it and needing chillers and E85 and race gas and meth? That's up to you.

Originally Posted by JSH

You say "swap it out" as if it's akin to an oil change when it's actually a costly piece of work. I suggested a ported blower because I understand him to be saying he has a limited budget.

He never said he was on a limited budget. He said "cost efficient" which carries a completely different meaning. Pulley and port a stock blower will not be cost efficient when he ends up spending as much if not more than someone who did things properly and got a complete package along with a blower swap and is making more power much easier than he is. And then when he gets sick of that little 1.7 blower running high IATs all the time and ends up swapping it out then all that money he spent on it will have been even more of a waste. Take the time and do things the proper way and things will be much more cost efficient. I'd rather spend a little more money and end up with an 800+ RWHP setup on pump gas that can be turned up to quadruple RW numbers if I wanted to in the future than to try and stretch the smallest blower on the planet out to within an inch of it's life. But that is ZL1 talk and does not apply to the SS that OP has.