[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by Ron_Robinson1

Ahhh my bad. Sorry brother, honestly. Took the message wrong as I was reading others as well.

It's all good..

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

That price includes the reflex plus and has proven to be very capable and easy to tune. I don't know what you mean by preferred, but it hasn't been out long enough for those using Holley to prefer one or the other. I suppose once it gets wideband support some bigger name shops might switch to it.

Correct, when and if.

[Ron_Robinson1]

The Toohighpsi is the ticket for sure. I know some tuners don’t want to use it yet because of the wideband. Others have used it with great results.

[ZED SLED]

Finally reached your goal?
Haha, I know you better than that

C'mon, what's next?

[RobZL1]

Originally Posted by Ron_Robinson1

The Toohighpsi is the ticket for sure. I know some tuners don’t want to use it yet because of the wideband. Others have used it with great results.

I wonder why people don't want to use it? I mean, if I understand it correctly, isn't it just using the MAF freq. to control the injectors? Are people hesitant because it's not closed loop with a wideband?

I mean, that's no different than any (non-c8) stock GM system in open loop from that aspect.

I'd have no issue with it. Dial it in, and "let 'er rip tater chip"

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Correct, when and if.

It doesn't necessarily need wideband support. It's been working great for those currently running it.

[Ron_Robinson1]

Originally Posted by RobZL1

I wonder why people don't want to use it? I mean, if I understand it correctly, isn't it just using the MAF freq. to control the injectors? Are people hesitant because it's not closed loop with a wideband?

I mean, that's no different than any (non-c8) stock GM system in open loop from that aspect.

I'd have no issue with it. Dial it in, and "let 'er rip tater chip"

My real take is change. Most people don’t like change and if used to doing things one way why learn another. Just like tuning with meth. Some like to some don’t.

Reminds me when ID injectors came out on the LS cars. Some shops only wanted to use them after because of the injector data that came with them. FICs are half the price but don’t come with data making them easier to tune.

[Camaro1973]

Nice one rob. I’m Going port injection too on a fully built lt4. It’s still in the shop.

How much power is it making now?

[Ron_Robinson1]

Originally Posted by Camaro1973

Nice one rob. I’m Going port injection too on a fully built lt4. It’s still in the shop.

How much power is it making now?

Thanks man, I look forward to see your build.

We only only dynoed the car in 6th gear. So these numbers are a little lower compared to the 1:1 7th gear. Mustang 959/831.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

It doesn't necessarily need wideband support. It's been working great for those currently running it.

Understood, but most shops prefer a wideband.

[Joshinator99]

GREAT work Ron! Awesome stuff.

[Ron_Robinson1]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

GREAT work Ron! Awesome stuff.

Thanks buddy. Much appreciated.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Understood, but most shops prefer a wideband.

Why? It's maf controlled, can see ethanol, and you still use a wideband in the exhaust to tune like you would with anything else that is open loop.

Dedicated wideband would allow for closed loop fuel control so it will self correct. Yeah that would be nice but GM stuff has been going plenty fast with Open loop fueling for years.

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by Ron_Robinson1

Thanks buddy. Much appreciated.

Can I ask what you did to get such a good 60’ time? I see you mentioned the 15” conversion, did that make a big difference? Are you launching in 1st or 2nd (assuming still on 10L90)? That 60’ time is what I need to get to 9.0 flat or better.