01-16-2015, 12:36 PM | #1 |
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2014 ss 1le lifter failure!!!
so i went and got my oil changed from the dealer full syn the day before. when i got it back it drove fine. parked it at work and came back out afterwork and started it.. it was about 44f outside, and i noticed a small lifter noise. i thought oh the car is cold, it will quit as it warms up. now i been noticing that tick lately and also when i start the car in the morning it sounds like not enough oil is up top (valvetrain)for the first few second upon cold start ups. not giving it no mind i just kept driving even getting on it pretty good later on that night like i do with my 1le going threw the gears etc.. made it home.. turned it off.. in the morning its about 35 degrees out and i start her up and right away lights come on, check engine light, stabli, traction lights etc. and the car has a miss fire.. i let it warm up on its own and drove away str8 towards the dealer which is about 5 miles from me.. after it got to operating temps the check light came off and the car evened out no miss fire just a light tapping sound from up top like a lifter went bad.. check engine light never came back on.. they scanned the codes and came back with missfire on cylinder # ? and emissions code.. my service manger says i have bad news you need new cam and lifters. im like how did that happen? they said they will see when they tear it down.. and i said is there anything i could have done to cause this he said not really, and it will be covered under warranty.. car is bone stock.. so do you think the harsh cold start ups caused this? because imo if i did harm the car by driving it hard that night wouldnt the check engine light come on right away? missfires? and all? need some input on this... thanks.
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01-16-2015, 01:21 PM | #2 |
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Just curious, how many miles on the car? I have had numerous cam/lifter failures over the past 30 years, a couple my fault, most of them I have no idea, parts fail. Make sure they crack open the filter and check for metal....... Next it could be the rod/main bearings, so pay close attention......just my .02 and no it's not the "cold" as those are normal operating temps but I would be watching my tires if you have the F1 G2's on...
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01-16-2015, 02:32 PM | #3 |
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I've seen it quite frequently, seen it on truck/suv 4.8, 5.3 6.0 and 6.2ls, from 2005 up to 2012..seems like a manufacturing issue with the roller tip on these lifters, has been happening for quite some time. takes out the cam also. do a search and see how many have had this issue.
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01-16-2015, 02:43 PM | #4 |
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#PIP4138N: SES Light, Misfire, DTC P0300, And/or A Chirp, Squeak, Squeal, Or Tick Noise - Potential Valvetrain Concern - (Aug 5, 2013)
Subject: SES Light, Misfire, DTC P0300, And/or A Chirp, Squeak, Squeal, Or Tick Noise - Potential Valvetrain Concern Models: 2004-2007 Buick Rainier 2008-2009 Buick LaCrosse, Allure (Canada Only) 2006-2013 Cadillac CTS-V 2002-2013 Cadillac Escalade 2010-2013 Chevrolet Camaro 2011-2013 Chevrolet Caprice PPV 2002-2013 Chevrolet Avalanche 1999-2013 Chevrolet Express, Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe 2009-2013 Chevrolet Colorado 2003-2009 Chevrolet Trailblazer 2006-2009 Chevrolet Impala SS 2006-2007 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS 2003-2006 Chevrolet SSR 2005-2013 Chevrolet Corvette 2009-2013 GMC Canyon 2003-2009 GMC Envoy 1999-2013 GMC Savana, Sierra, Yukon 2003-2010 Hummer H2 2008-2010 Hummer H3 2008-2010 Pontiac G8 2005-2006 Pontiac GTO 2005-2008 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP 2005-2009 Saab 97x with a V8 engine This PI was superseded to add the Caprice PPV. Please discard PIP4138M. The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI. Condition/Concern Some customers may complain of a SES light, engine misfire, and/or engine noise. If the SES light is on, the technician will find a P0300-P0308 DTC with misfires counting on a single cylinder that may or may not be felt. This may occur consistently, or it may occur intermittently. If a noise is verified, it will not be eliminated by canceling fuel injectors and the noise will occur at camshaft speed (half of crankshaft speed). The noise may be described as a chirp, squeak, squeal, or tick noise and may increase off of idle. In either case, the cause of this concern may not be isolated after following SI diagnosis. This PI is written for technicians who experience this concern and follow SI diagnosis without isolating the cause of this concern. Recommendation/Instructions If SI diagnosis does not isolate the cause of this concern, it may be the result of any of the following:
Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.
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01-16-2015, 03:09 PM | #6 |
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01-16-2015, 03:31 PM | #7 |
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^^^^ YEP! ^^^^
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01-16-2015, 04:10 PM | #8 |
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Sorry to hear about your ride. Any one know makes a good aftermarket performance lifter for LS3??
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01-16-2015, 04:14 PM | #9 |
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20k on the dot.. i thought the ls7 lifters were an upgrade? i got rid on my g2's and went with the pilot super sports.. love those tires... i do drive the car hard at times.. thats why i bought it.. but not abuse, just happy hauling ass driving..
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01-16-2015, 10:16 PM | #10 |
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What oil did they use (brand/rating)? Even driving your car hard (when warmed up) should not do this. I'd be very upset about it, especially if it happened after a recent oil change. I don't think 35 degrees is very extreme, but I'd wait until the engine warms up to operating temps before "getting on it" hard. Hope you find out what happened and that it's only a broken valve spring or something simple and did not cause other damage.
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01-16-2015, 10:33 PM | #11 |
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Ditto on knowing what oil it was...
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01-16-2015, 11:05 PM | #12 |
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The invoice says Mobil 1 full syn. But right after the change I noticed a tick sound. But I ignored it because I know LS engines have that slight tick. But not like this. And the speed of the tick told me exactly it was a lifter.
And for I always allow my car to operating temps before getting on it. That morning I just cold started it and the lights went off !! Misfire etc. I felt the car was starving for oil some mornings I could the lifters tap for a few seconds more and more as the mileage went on. But never a lack of performance ...
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01-17-2015, 12:09 AM | #13 |
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Ok my GUESS is that the dealer started it and ran it and when the oil pressure never came up, they realized "oh sh!t we forgot to put the oil in...." Shut if off, filled oil, pressure came up and sent you on your way.
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01-17-2015, 12:23 AM | #14 |
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Damn ^^^ that's a messed up way of putting it lol. But hey it can happen
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