2023 NFL season discussion - Page 54

PoorMansCamaro · 01-10-2024, 06:34 AM

Guess the QB

16th in QB rating
11th in Cmp%
7th in Y/G
11th in Y/C
10th in Y/A
16th in ANY/A
9th in TD%
6th in TD Passes
3rd worst in Int%
2nd most Ints
2nd most turnovers

102SS · 01-10-2024, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Guess the QB

16th in QB rating
11th in Cmp%
7th in Y/G
11th in Y/C
10th in Y/A
16th in ANY/A
9th in TD%
6th in TD Passes
3rd worst in Int%
2nd most Ints
2nd most turnovers

Lets look at all the negatives

I prefer to look at the positives

I still think he should be MVP

mickss · 01-10-2024, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Guess the QB

16th in QB rating
11th in Cmp%
7th in Y/G
11th in Y/C
10th in Y/A
16th in ANY/A
9th in TD%
6th in TD Passes
3rd worst in Int%
2nd most Ints
2nd most turnovers

Guess what team has to go to Kansas City and freeze their asses off because they lost to that QB!!!

I found some cold weather foorball gear for Tua and the fish, couldn`t find anything for their asses!!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/29535398664...d48747c6d56d2c

PoorMansCamaro · 01-10-2024, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 102SS

Lets look at all the negatives

I prefer to look at the positives

I still think he should be MVP

Well if you look at all positives for every QB, then they all look like mvp’s lol. Well the top 5 or so, anyway.

Iron Lung Jimmy · 01-10-2024, 11:54 AM

Let's talk about a man going for his second ring

NjaTrtl · 01-10-2024, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Guess the QB

16th in QB rating
11th in Cmp%
7th in Y/G
11th in Y/C
10th in Y/A
16th in ANY/A
9th in TD%
6th in TD Passes
3rd worst in Int%
2nd most Ints
2nd most turnovers

As long as we are looking at any old stat as an indication of a players value:

PoorMansCamaro · 01-10-2024, 02:23 PM

I’m confused how anything I posted was “any old stat”. Those are literally important stats for QB’s lol.

NjaTrtl · 01-10-2024, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

I’m confused how anything I posted was “any old stat”. Those are literally important stats for QB’s lol.

I do think you cherry picked the stats you wanted, and many of them without context.

A couple others you left out:

3rd in QBR
1st in sack % (fewest times sacked and yards lost)

PoorMansCamaro · 01-10-2024, 06:58 PM

I suppose I could have added total yards and total TDs. He has some good stats for sure. But my point was overall, he’s not mvp

102SS · 01-11-2024, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Well if you look at all positives for every QB, then they all look like mvp’s lol. Well the top 5 or so, anyway.

I agree the top 5 QB's should all be considered .

Tua

Dak

Goff

Purdy

Allen

The TD leader is usually the winner and with 44 its JA17

He is also the least sacked QB is 4th in passing yds 3rd in QB rushing yds tied for first in rush TD's with 15(NFL record) 2nd in rush yds per attempt 4.72

Lamont is #1 at 5.65 but had only 5 TD's and 48 first downs Josh had 57 first downs on 40 fewer attempts

PoorMansCamaro · 01-11-2024, 07:29 AM

Passing yard leader should win mvp

Iron Lung Jimmy · 01-11-2024, 08:57 AM

If Joe Flacco had played the whole year after Watson got hurt he would be the MVP. As it is it will either be Purdy or Jackson.

CJ Stroud has a better MVP case than Josh Allen.

Allen has taken a Super Bowl favorite and gone a disappointing 11-6 and was in danger of missing the playoffs up to the very end.

Stroud has taken a bad team and gone 10-7 and put them in the playoffs.

Put Stroud on the Bills and they are 14-3.

102SS · 01-11-2024, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Passing yard leader should win mvp

So now that we agree on the top 5 QB's being the candidates we can go through an elimination process

Dak lost to Josh

Tua lost twice

The Lions and the 49ers had better rushing attacks than the Bills averaging 4.6 and 4.9 yds per carry respectively

Both teams had 27 rushing TD's and Purdy had 2 of those and Goff had 2

The Bills only had 22 rushing TD's Josh had 15 of those

The Bills as a team averaged 4.3 yds a carry and Josh was 4.72 yds a carry.

Passing TD's Goff had 30 and Purdy had 31 with Josh at 29.

So Purdy has 33 total TD's

Goff has 32 TD's

JA17 has 44 TD's

The MVP is what player means the most to their team and how good would they be without them

I think I made my case

Iron Lung Jimmy · 01-11-2024, 10:20 AM

Mahomes isn't a top 5 QB? lol

01-10-2024, 06:34 AM	#743
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 56,959	Guess the QB 16th in QB rating 11th in Cmp% 7th in Y/G 11th in Y/C 10th in Y/A 16th in ANY/A 9th in TD% 6th in TD Passes 3rd worst in Int% 2nd most Ints 2nd most turnovers __________________

01-10-2024, 02:23 PM	#749
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 56,959	I’m confused how anything I posted was “any old stat”. Those are literally important stats for QB’s lol. __________________

01-10-2024, 06:58 PM	#751
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 56,959	I suppose I could have added total yards and total TDs. He has some good stats for sure. But my point was overall, he’s not mvp __________________

01-11-2024, 07:29 AM	#753
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 56,959	Passing yard leader should win mvp __________________

01-11-2024, 08:57 AM	#754
Iron Lung Jimmy Drives: Iron Lung, Jimmy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,450	If Joe Flacco had played the whole year after Watson got hurt he would be the MVP. As it is it will either be Purdy or Jackson. CJ Stroud has a better MVP case than Josh Allen. Allen has taken a Super Bowl favorite and gone a disappointing 11-6 and was in danger of missing the playoffs up to the very end. Stroud has taken a bad team and gone 10-7 and put them in the playoffs. Put Stroud on the Bills and they are 14-3.

01-11-2024, 10:20 AM	#756
Iron Lung Jimmy Drives: Iron Lung, Jimmy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,450	Mahomes isn't a top 5 QB? lol