04-03-2021, 02:05 PM | #43 |
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I drove a C6 LS3 Vette for a short period of time. It's been a while but I think performance wise the Z/28 was very close. Coolness factor was no contest, the Z/28 is by far a more badass car in my opinion!
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04-03-2021, 02:07 PM | #44 |
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04-03-2021, 03:43 PM | #45 |
Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE White Join Date: Jun 2017
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04-03-2021, 05:22 PM | #46 |
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Interesting feedback and discussion. Subscribed.
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04-04-2021, 11:31 PM | #47 | |
Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Mar 2021
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I test drove a ZLE and thought the suspension was not bad at all. I am pretty young, 33, though, and have had aggressive suspension on all of my cars, except for my recent c6. compared to after market coilovers, etc., the ZLE is pretty sweet. I also live in the bay area, CA, so the roads here are not too bad. I think the values you guys are talking about seem kinda low on the p cars? used vs used, the p cars are way way more expense at least around here than what I am seeing on this thread. And what if that engine in the GT3 lets go? Or any somewhat serious repair on a porsche, pretty much starts with pull the engine. I love those cars, but dang the porsche tax is crazy. And not to get on a whole different topic, but then you get those porsche owners who will talk for 3 hours on what color stitching you should have gotten |
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04-05-2021, 09:25 AM | #48 | |
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I will be comparing my new to me C6Z vs my old Callaway Camaro on the same tires this year. I expect to need multiple outings with the C6Z to get comfortable pushing it before I can really compare.
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04-05-2021, 01:28 PM | #49 | |
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The ZL1/E is actually a very good compromise muscle/sports car, it just doesn't have the status, but I never cared about that |
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04-06-2021, 07:42 PM | #50 |
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So I discovered something new today about my ZLE. I discovered the traction control is very effective and very aggressive. I am just about to 1500 miles so I said screw it and floored it. I think I was in 2nd gear, maybe third, damn now I can't exactly remember. I was in Track Mode, Sport 2. Going through about 5000 rpm I could feel the car suddenly and aggressively "throttle back" I guess is the best way to describe it. I was like WTF, then it dawned on me. "I think the traction control, even dialed back in Sport 2, is still gonna prevent wheel spin." I selected RACE and did the same thing.......it was less aggressive but definitely cut the engine as RPM spun up. It happened about the same RPM so I thought maybe it was an electronic limiter of some kind that kicked in until 1500 miles. Nope, I was able to gradually accelerate beyond 5k rpm. Coming from a GT4 with relatively low HP (385) and being able to turn everything completely off, floor it virtually anywhere and not worry about wheel spin..........and now going to this car made me realize there are issues with high HP cars that are only rear wheel drive. Kinda reminded of the ZR1. I liked feeling totally in control of the GT4. I'd be hesitant to turn absolutely everything off in this car. The Z/28 gave me the same confidence as the GT4 in terms of not feeling like I would overwhelm the tires. Well, I guess I have to relearn throttle control!
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04-06-2021, 09:35 PM | #51 | |
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04-07-2021, 12:30 PM | #52 | |
Drives: Colorado ZR2 Join Date: Jan 2019
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I had a 2016 Z06 manual for 2 years, it was my DD. No track days. I previously had a 2002 Z06 and 2006 Z06. For some reason, I never enjoyed the C7Z as much as the other 2 Z06s. My personal, non pro impression was that the C7Z was more numb compared to its predecessors. Also the AC didn't work as well, either. Maybe it was the supercharger, when it was hot out (100+) the AC air was not nearly as cold. The relative numbness of the C7Z and its weight led me to get a Lotus Elise. Brilliant handling car, far from the fastest, but so enjoyable to drive in the canyon that is my commute road. I'm kinda going off on a tangent here, but since the C8 has no manual trans, I've given up on Corvette. My next purchase will most likely be the Lotus Evora 400 or Evora GT. IMO, it's the most analog modern car available today, with a stick. Your enthusiasm (and OP's) with the ZLE has me curious. I like everything about it except the weight. I previously had a 1984 Z28 HO and 1997 Z28, so not unfamiliar with the F bodies. Thanks, |
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04-07-2021, 01:36 PM | #53 | |
Drives: Garnet Red / ZL1 1LE Join Date: Apr 2016
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The C7 Z06 had many areas for improvement - chiefly cooling. It's no secret that it has a propensity to overheat on track. It has to do with a small frontal grill which does not help with cooling. My car overheated on me at the track (driving the car at 4th and 5th gear and granny shifting was no fun). My oil temps were still kissing 300' on a day when ambient temps were 80'. My biggest issue with the C7 Z06 was it simply did not put the power down (especially on tight back roads), the car was quite unstable even after I set the camber/caster correctly and also supplemented that with the DSC Sport Controller. My drive to the Tail of the Dragon in the C7 Z06 left me cold and wanting more. There was simply no confidence in second gear turns. The ZLE on the other hand has a chassis that begs to be driven and absolutely adores 2nd gear turns. It puts the power down beautifully with excellent driver feedback via the steering + transmission. I am always aware of what the front and rear end is doing on the car. The C7 Z06 on the other hand was an expensive lesson (at least I didn't lose out on the trade). This is what happens when a rush job by the Corvette team on a shoe string R/D budget during the last financial crisis left a lot on the table. The Alpha chassis Camaro 1LE is essentially the best Z06 today (with the LT4 motor) thanks to it's track day leaning calibration and build. And...oh...the back seats for this parent of a toddler + infant is a huge bonus!
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04-07-2021, 01:54 PM | #54 |
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04-07-2021, 04:08 PM | #55 |
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04-07-2021, 04:12 PM | #56 |
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Checkmate:
Thanks for taking the time. You described my hesitancy about the C7Z perfectly. My commute road has many turns in the canyon, and more than once I didn't feel confident pushing the car through those corners in lower gears. |
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