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dopamine47 · 10-30-2016, 06:33 PM

Hello all! I know there are many threads on this topic, but I was hoping for some personalized feedback. I have a 2011 L99 with the following modifications already done:
Stainless works long tube headers
SLP X pipe exhaust
BBK CAI

My current goal is to reach 500 rwhp without forced induction. What should my next few steps be?

Gearheaded · 10-30-2016, 06:39 PM

For 500 on an L99 prob head/cam, maybe cam/e85, maybe low lash cam setup

wrtowman · 10-30-2016, 06:45 PM

Its going to cost a lot of money to get an L99 there NA. You are going to need every bolt on including heads and cam. And with a big cam to make that power, you are going to need a torque converter. And then you have t pray that the dyno you use is generous instead of stingy.

Just get a stage 2 cam kit and be happy with your 440-460rwhp.

Jayjellyfish212 · 10-30-2016, 08:06 PM

Cam... Big cam and as mentioned above!

Blazer098 · 10-30-2016, 09:10 PM

Not trying to thread jack, but what would a LS3 need? Already have long tubes, catless, and cai.

jc615 · 10-30-2016, 09:12 PM

Made 485 with heads/cam/e85. All Dynos are different so maybe you can find a happy one.

dopamine47 · 10-30-2016, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jc615

Made 485 with heads/cam/e85. All Dynos are different so maybe you can find a happy one.

Hey that's close enough for me I'm not looking to have the dyno sheet say exactly 500 just wanna get in the ballpark of high hp non forced induction.

dopamine47 · 10-30-2016, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Blazer098

Not trying to thread jack, but what would a LS3 need? Already have long tubes, catless, and cai.

Well LS3's come with about 360-370ish rwhp stock I think you'd already be fairly close with what you have

Gunmetal Speedster · 10-31-2016, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dopamine47

Well LS3's come with about 360-370ish rwhp stock I think you'd already be fairly close with what you have

Nah, I think he is gonna need a cam and tune as well. Not as close as you think, although I wish it were that easy

sdynak · 10-31-2016, 04:52 AM

Lots of stickers (the 5hp ones) and a catch can should do it..

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Seriously.. interested in the same and know it will be close but maybe not quite.. 480ish is pretty dam close.. If you have ever operated a vehicle with that kind of power the grin will cover the balance of the 20.. Not sure heads are worth the extra but if you really want to get there that could just do it.. Keep us posted. Don't worry too much about a number.. You will be happy unless you go FI and break open the checkbook for real..

Snoman · 10-31-2016, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dopamine47

Hello all! I know there are many threads on this topic, but I was hoping for some personalized feedback. I have a 2011 L99 with the following modifications already done:
Stainless works long tube headers
SLP X pipe exhaust
BBK CAI

My current goal is to reach 500 rwhp without forced induction. What should my next few steps be?

Visit a professional shop

SSmitch · 10-31-2016, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Snoman

Visit a professional shop

Good Advice

Motarded421 · 10-31-2016, 08:05 AM

My suggestion is to just give up the desire to be NA and go FI. From the cars I've ridden in, research I've done (specific to this car) and the vette I built back in the mid 2000's - FI is the way to go.

Every car I've ever seen with a big cam always loses 2-3mpg. After I installed the cam in my vette I went from averaging 27mpg on the hwy to around 22. I swapped that out for a blower friendly cam and installed a Vortech setup and went back up to 26mpg. That wasn't the deciding factor in why I made the swap but it was a nice perk.

Drivaility is so much better with a mild cam and FI too. While big cams sound sexy as hell they become a real pain in the ass around town. Doing one on an automatic car is, IMO, even more of a pain.

Dmpsix · 10-31-2016, 08:06 AM

Stroker kit is gonna be required ... for every ci you can expect 1 - 1.5hp.

Installing a 416ci stroker on our stock 396ci (I think??) would give you a solid 20-25rwhp... also allow for a really big cam, easily push you over the 500rwhp goal N/A you're looking for.

10-30-2016, 06:33 PM	#1
dopamine47 Drives: 2011 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Arkansas Posts: 10	Road to 500 RWHP Hello all! I know there are many threads on this topic, but I was hoping for some personalized feedback. I have a 2011 L99 with the following modifications already done: Stainless works long tube headers SLP X pipe exhaust BBK CAI My current goal is to reach 500 rwhp without forced induction. What should my next few steps be? __________________ CAI, Stainless Works long tube headers, SLP X-Pipe, & shift kit.

10-30-2016, 06:39 PM	#2
Gearheaded Drives: 2014 SS Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 369	For 500 on an L99 prob head/cam, maybe cam/e85, maybe low lash cam setup __________________ Toys: 2014 SS - TSP 235/239, CAI, LT's, 12.2 @ 115 ("SLOWLY" chipping away ET) 2000 Trans Am - Bolt-ons 13.0@110 (sold) 2009 YZF R1 - Race bike (road course)(totaled racing) 2008 YZF R6 - Race bike (road course)(still own)

10-30-2016, 06:45 PM	#3
wrtowman Drives: 2011 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Warner Robins Ga Posts: 778	Its going to cost a lot of money to get an L99 there NA. You are going to need every bolt on including heads and cam. And with a big cam to make that power, you are going to need a torque converter. And then you have t pray that the dyno you use is generous instead of stingy. Just get a stage 2 cam kit and be happy with your 440-460rwhp. __________________ 2011 SGM Camaro 1SS/RS A6 - Vengeance Racing built/tuned. 590RWHP/560RWTQ, ADM LSA Conversion, 2.5 Grip-Tec, ZL1 fuel pump, ADM FPCM, FIC1000, VRPD2 Cam and LS3 Conversion with all the internal goodies, American Racing 1 7/8 Headers, no cats, SW Retro Cat Back, ADM Intake, AFCO HX, Varimax Pump, Rotofab Reservoir, B&M Transmission Cooler, VMAX TB, Elite Engineering CC, BMR LCAs, Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, DSS 1000hp axles, ZL1 Bumper and Sideskirts, Night Owl Halos, Matte Black 20" Rohana RC-22 with 20x10-275s/20x11-315s, R1 Concept Premier Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Hawk Ceramic Pads.

10-30-2016, 08:06 PM	#4
Jayjellyfish212 Drives: 2014 1LE Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,050 View My Garage	Cam... Big cam and as mentioned above! __________________ Car mods: never enough!

10-30-2016, 09:10 PM	#5
Blazer098 Drives: 2015 Summit White SS Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Oregon City, OR Posts: 357 View My Garage	Not trying to thread jack, but what would a LS3 need? Already have long tubes, catless, and cai. __________________ Full Bolt-Ons w/ Nightfury Cam (471rwhp)

10-30-2016, 09:12 PM	#6
jc615 Account Suspended Drives: Camaro and Sierra Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 795	Made 485 with heads/cam/e85. All Dynos are different so maybe you can find a happy one.

10-31-2016, 04:52 AM	#10
sdynak Drives: 2010 1SS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Bayville, NJ Posts: 936	Lots of stickers (the 5hp ones) and a catch can should do it.. .. Seriously.. interested in the same and know it will be close but maybe not quite.. 480ish is pretty dam close.. If you have ever operated a vehicle with that kind of power the grin will cover the balance of the 20.. Not sure heads are worth the extra but if you really want to get there that could just do it.. Keep us posted. Don't worry too much about a number.. You will be happy unless you go FI and break open the checkbook for real.. __________________ 2010 1SS LS3, Black, 235/250, .621/.615, 114 + 4, Kooks Stepped Headers, 3.91's, Bo White PTB, Flowmaster Mufflers, Cold Air Industries CAI, Apex Scoop & Windshield Washer Relocate, SLP Wheels, Skip Shift Eliminate, Barton Flat Stick, OEM HID/Halos, Dyno Tuned by ECS

10-31-2016, 08:05 AM	#13
Motarded421 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 30	My suggestion is to just give up the desire to be NA and go FI. From the cars I've ridden in, research I've done (specific to this car) and the vette I built back in the mid 2000's - FI is the way to go. Every car I've ever seen with a big cam always loses 2-3mpg. After I installed the cam in my vette I went from averaging 27mpg on the hwy to around 22. I swapped that out for a blower friendly cam and installed a Vortech setup and went back up to 26mpg. That wasn't the deciding factor in why I made the swap but it was a nice perk. Drivaility is so much better with a mild cam and FI too. While big cams sound sexy as hell they become a real pain in the ass around town. Doing one on an automatic car is, IMO, even more of a pain.

10-31-2016, 08:06 AM	#14
Dmpsix Drives: Black L99 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,862	Stroker kit is gonna be required ... for every ci you can expect 1 - 1.5hp. Installing a 416ci stroker on our stock 396ci (I think??) would give you a solid 20-25rwhp... also allow for a really big cam, easily push you over the 500rwhp goal N/A you're looking for.